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#thejonathantank-v-combatrole-et-al
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Brenda Cornwallis
Brenda Cornwallis 2025-04-23 09:55 a.m.
Clark County District Court online systems
Brenda Cornwallis
Brenda Cornwallis 2025-04-23 10:03 a.m.
@mike_bn
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clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-04-23 10:04 a.m.
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 10:04 a.m.
@thejonathantank where is ur complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 10:05 a.m.
Nvm
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ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:25 p.m.
@mike_bn Hi
ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:26 p.m.
I am counsel of record for Plaintiff
ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:26 p.m.
(appeared with the complaint)
ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:26 p.m.
I filed it in filing-center as opposed to on the website because it wouldn't let me given the case hadn't been added to any docket
ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:26 p.m.
I'll add it now
ian
ian 2025-04-23 01:28 p.m.
added
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 01:56 p.m.
plz google drive for viewing ease
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 01:56 p.m.
also summon defendants
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:11 p.m.
@mike_bn all the defendants (and SG) don't fit on the form in ᴠɪʀᴛᴜᴀʟ-ᴄᴏᴜʀᴛʀᴏᴏᴍ
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:11 p.m.
do you have a different format I could use for it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:12 p.m.
do separate ones then
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:12 p.m.
Ok
ianian
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:44 p.m.
great u can serve
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:44 p.m.
have 3rd party serve
mike_bnmike_bn
great u can serve
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:44 p.m.
isnt there a command for it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:45 p.m.
I have to sit through and run the command multiple times
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:45 p.m.
ok no worries ill get somebody to do it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:45 p.m.
Or u can just have someone dm them quickly
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:46 p.m.
Im doing homework atm
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:46 p.m.
understandable
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:48 p.m.
@Combatrole @andris @Nicklaus are added, fox needs to join
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:49 p.m.
nick take notice and advise me of your intentions
mike_bnmike_bn
@Combatrole @andris @Nicklaus are added, fox needs to join
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:51 p.m.
should I still serve summons or should I wait to see if they're waiving
ianian
should I still serve summons or should I wait to see if they're waiving
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:57 p.m.
might as well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 02:57 p.m.
still serve
ian
ian 2025-04-23 02:57 p.m.
Okie dokie
ian
ian Server2025-04-23 04:05 p.m.
ian
ian Server2025-04-23 04:06 p.m.
ian
ian Server2025-04-23 04:07 p.m.
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:08 p.m.
@mike_bn SG and defendants served (exception see below)
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:08 p.m.
Foxfragment could not be located by the almighty server of summons
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:09 p.m.
Perhaps you could issue an order directing the sheriff's office to do it as I'm assuming they're specifically trained for it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:30 p.m.
Uh
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:31 p.m.
𝐊𝐢𝐦#6780
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:32 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:32 p.m.
@ian dw about it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:32 p.m.
found him
mike_bnmike_bn
Click to see attachment.
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
Oh my
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
how did you do that
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
are you some sort of dark wizard
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
im a hacker
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
stop hacking
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
reported
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
he is upset
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:33 p.m.
Your jackass
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:34 p.m.
If he doesnt want to join to participate and duly protect his rights we'll ask for default (later on)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:35 p.m.
we will see if doj interjects
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:35 p.m.
they make take them all on and rep them
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:35 p.m.
I doubt that
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:35 p.m.
the nature of the torts is very serious
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:36 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:36 p.m.
ex parte
mike_bnmike_bn
nick take notice and advise me of your intentions
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-23 04:37 p.m.
we will obviously defend the official misconduct but probably not any of them for the individual capacity torts
NicklausNicklaus
we will obviously defend the official misconduct but probably not any of them for the individual capacity torts
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:38 p.m.
got it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:38 p.m.
this makes it tricky but we will figure it out
NicklausNicklaus
we will obviously defend the official misconduct but probably not any of them for the individual capacity torts
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
do you waive summons :❤️:
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
@mike_bn
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
although ive been served so technically ive already complied
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
yes the rest have already complied
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
oh right
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:40 p.m.
fox wont be joining us
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
but nevertheless the deadline for a reply from all defendants is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
we will call it at the 29th
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
11:59 PM EST or earlier
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
you have an extra day since its a lengthy complaint
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
also @Nicklaus if you need more time just ask
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:41 p.m.
i know finals are next week, we can always set this back until after finals
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:42 p.m.
same with @Combatrole @andris
mike_bnmike_bn
you have an extra day since its a lengthy complaint
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:42 p.m.
also your jackass it's come to my attention I wrote lamppost instead of speed sign in the complaint
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
so if we have to file an amended complaint we can do so in 10 seconds
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
its noted
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
could we?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
dont bother
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
:👍:
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:43 p.m.
also we won't object to setting anything back due to finals
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:44 p.m.
counsel is advised lamppost is not a lamppost but a speed limit sign
✅1
ianian
also we won't object to setting anything back due to finals
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:44 p.m.
yeah we might do that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:44 p.m.
set this for early may
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:44 p.m.
that's fine by me
mike_bnmike_bn
we will call it at the 29th
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:45 p.m.
okay so disregard this
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:45 p.m.
personally i dont even hear of finals yet but most of the world does so
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:47 p.m.
# ANSWER DUE DATE #

@Combatrole @andris
Sorry for the pings guys, you are being sued in your official and individual capacity. The DOJ has indicated they are likely not to defend you as to the individual capacity claims. That means it would be in your best interest to find a lawyer. You must reply to the allegations in the civil complaint (https://drive.google.com/file/d/17IqY1Y-1DNNFu6THjkXnYmfZF0Ms-_4D/view?usp=sharing) ON OR BEFORE 11:59 PM EST, MAY 10TH, 2025.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:47 p.m.
Hire a lawyer please before then, @Nicklaus this date applies to you too.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:47 p.m.
After this we will set deadlines as law and rop allows, I want to get you all out of finals before dealing with this
mike_bnmike_bn
they make take them all on and rep them
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:47 p.m.
so, since they're not, should we expect you to grant default upon motion
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
for fox if they don't show up
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
yeah if fox doesnt show up on may 10 you can motion for default
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
Okie dokie
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
and if they dont pay ill just give them a forever stay in jail until they do
ian
ian 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
thanks
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:48 p.m.
np see you all on may 10th
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-08-28 07:30 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:49 p.m.
hopefully before so i can add your lawyers
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-23 04:49 p.m.
and @Nicklaus let me know what the government plans to do
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-23 04:49 p.m.
yes soon(edited)
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-23 04:50 p.m.
ill talk to my team
mike_bnmike_bn
yeah if fox doesnt show up on may 10 you can motion for default
ian
ian 2025-04-24 06:44 p.m.
Did you mean apr 28
ian
ian 2025-04-24 06:44 p.m.
because the summons directs fox to be here within 5 days or face default
ian
ian 2025-04-24 06:45 p.m.
the time he has to file an answer if he does join by Apr 28 is separate and irrelevant for the purposes of default judgment
ianian
because the summons directs fox to be here within 5 days or face default
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-24 10:43 p.m.
No I’ll keep it at may
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-24 10:43 p.m.
Because if he comes along and contest it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-24 10:43 p.m.
Now we are handling this early for no reason
ian
ian 2025-04-25 06:00 a.m.
Ok
mike_bnmike_bn
# ANSWER DUE DATE # @Combatrole @andris Sorry for the pings guys, you are being sued in your official and individual capacity. The DOJ has indicated they...
andris
andris 2025-04-25 08:33 a.m.
hello my lawyer is @polyrabies please add him
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-25 09:28 a.m.
@polyrabies
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-25 09:29 a.m.
Take notice of things discussed
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# ANSWER DUE DATE # @Combatrole @andris Sorry for the pings guys, you are being sued in your official and individual capacity. The DOJ has indicated they...
Combatrole
Combatrole 2025-04-25 10:42 a.m.
hello, I'm also being represented by polyrabies
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-25 11:08 a.m.
@polyrabies did you explain to them the risk of representing both of them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-25 11:09 a.m.
And if a conflict of interest between these two clients arises you will substitute counsel
ian
ian 2025-04-25 06:19 p.m.
CO-COUNSEL NOTICE OF APPEARANCE
Cc @mike_bn @polyrabies @Nicklaus
Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/12Q4qJH9bHzx0DqzXWzYkiqw82eO-Qngl/view?usp=sharing
ian
ian 2025-04-25 06:45 p.m.
@mike_bn could he be added
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mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-25 06:57 p.m.
@ian
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:09 p.m.
@mike_bn can u give fox until may the 15th to appear
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:09 p.m.
they're dealing with irl mental issues and are taking a break.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:09 p.m.
and will be back soon.
mike_bnmike_bn
# ANSWER DUE DATE # @Combatrole @andris Sorry for the pings guys, you are being sued in your official and individual capacity. The DOJ has indicated they...
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:10 p.m.
and can we get the response due date extended to the 15th
polyrabiespolyrabies
@mike_bn can u give fox until may the 15th to appear
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:18 p.m.
@mike_bn Plaintiff objects to both this and the response due date being extended
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:18 p.m.
We were generous in granting an extension for final exams
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:18 p.m.
The deadline is literally in 15 days
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:19 p.m.
Civil procedure only grants 5 days
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:19 p.m.
Well the extension is needed
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:19 p.m.
theres no need to rush this
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
justice shouldn't be rushed
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
Additionally I don't think Fox needs until the 15th to join us. A mental condition (unless you'd like to challenge me, mr. Polyrabies) does not, unless severely grave, actually disable a person from joining a Discord and hiring a lawyer
polyrabiespolyrabies
Well the extension is needed
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
Is it
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
What's the reason
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
I already said
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
Yes, as to Fox's extension
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:20 p.m.
Not yours
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:21 p.m.
It is my belief that you are going through with your typical defense of dragging out the trial through months, as you've stated both privately to me and publicly before
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:21 p.m.
So while I am not rushing, there is definitely a need to not allow you to prejudice my client with your shenanigans
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
Again we object to any extension whatsoever
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
So we don't care about foxs mental state?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
You should be ashamed of yourself and held in contempt for failing to accomodate for a community members mental health implications,
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
they suffer from PTSD and other mental disorders which i'm not gonna name
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
A vague "mental state" does not disallow somebody from joining a Discord and getting a lawyer, or at the very least, expressing your interest in participating in the proceedings
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
which inhibit them from participating in these proceedings until the 15th.
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:22 p.m.
Fox has been very disrespectful to both the Plaintiff and the court
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
And showed no signs of having any prejudicial mental state
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
Because they suffer from mental health conditions
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
Only to you, conveniently
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
the deranged behaviour is a product of one of the various mental health conditions
polyrabiespolyrabies
Because they suffer from mental health conditions
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
You are not the legal counsel of Fox and can't comment on that
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
Which I wont name for privacy reasons thats all.
polyrabiespolyrabies
the deranged behaviour is a product of one of the various mental health conditions
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:23 p.m.
I will not ask you to prove this—it's Roblox. But I will at least ask that Fox say it himself.
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:24 p.m.
I know how you operate and I won't take the chance this is another shenanigan.
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:24 p.m.
I implore his jackass not to as well
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:24 p.m.
You just called fox a jackass?
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:24 p.m.
The judge
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:24 p.m.
He prefers to be called his jackass
ianian
It is my belief that you are going through with your typical defense of dragging out the trial through months, as you've stated both privately to me and publicly before
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:28 p.m.
So the court knows, my claims are not without merit
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:28 p.m.
posted in this discord publicly
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:28 p.m.
Huh that's not relevant to this
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
that doesn't mention this case or anything thats hypothetical
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
just like how ppl joke about murdering others
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
I am supporting my reason for objecting to your extension
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
It's relevant
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
Ur objecting to my extension cause of whatr i said nearly a month ago in the court chatroom before this case was even filed?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:29 p.m.
Nice
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:30 p.m.
I'm objecting because the extension is unnecessary and frankly a joke
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:30 p.m.
so foxs mental state is a joke to you?
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:30 p.m.
You were given like 13 additional days
polyrabiespolyrabies
so foxs mental state is a joke to you?
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:30 p.m.
It means nothing coming from you because it is simply convenient for you to say it
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:30 p.m.
Instead get me FoxFragment saying that
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
He has explicitly stated he does not wish to take part in these proceedings
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
Anyway, I'd like to make the court also aware @mike_bn both my clients are likely planning to depart from clark county therefore expect delayed responses from me as it may be hard to communicate with my clients
ianian
It means nothing coming from you because it is simply convenient for you to say it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
why would i joke about someone having mental health conditions
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
:😭: :🙏:
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
because you know they'll never join Clark, as they have said, and will never refute your claims
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
it's convenient for you to say it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:31 p.m.
You could just dm them and ask urself but ok.
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:32 p.m.
I am not throwing accusations, if you want an extension, you need reason if you don't want us to object, and this doesnt seem like an actual reason
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-25 07:32 p.m.
WWell i don't care about your objection, the judge decides.
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:32 p.m.
Yeah I know it's an objection not a ruling
ian
ian 2025-04-25 07:34 p.m.
@mike_bn Like I said the plaintiff thoroughly objects to all of the defense's requested further extensions
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-25 09:40 p.m.
Hi
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-25 09:42 p.m.
if he is in contact with poly then I don’t know what the problem is
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-25 09:42 p.m.
Skull
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-25 09:42 p.m.
the gov will be filing a response and mtd subsequently this weekend hopefully
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:50 a.m.
Ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:50 a.m.
@polyrabies @ian you both violated my very clear rules about cross talk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:50 a.m.
That is my biggest thing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:50 a.m.
Please post your request or message to court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
I will give u time to reply
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
Okay?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
Heres my request can you give us until the 15th of may for the reply
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
For now no
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
and 15 of may for fox to return
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
My reason being
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
Let’s wait it out
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
As the deadline approaches
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:51 a.m.
We will address it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:52 a.m.
It’s too far out to decide when fox will appear, and frankly I won’t revolve the proceedings around their feelings
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:52 a.m.
respectfully your honor fox has a neurological disorder
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:52 a.m.
and they're material to this case
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:53 a.m.
so please reconsider and give an additional 5 days the 15th
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:53 a.m.
Is that why they called me the hard r
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:54 a.m.
Seriously though may 10th is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:54 a.m.
Like 3 weeks out
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:54 a.m.
I'm sorry if they did but they have a neurological disorder so please be patient with them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:55 a.m.
They stand unrepresented at this point
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
I’m not saying I won’t grant it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
I’m saying wait
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
Let’s see how it plays out
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
They have a LETI Cert, and have expressed they're coming back by the 15th
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
thats why im asking for 15th
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
Well sorry 3 weeks is
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
Weeks more than I have to give
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:56 a.m.
I gave you an inch don’t go pulling for a mile
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:57 a.m.
If everyone who didn’t want to appear blamed it on having a few screws loose
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:57 a.m.
Nothing would get done
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
It isn’t hard to join a discord, say “present”, and give simple information to counsel
mike_bnmike_bn
@polyrabies did you explain to them the risk of representing both of them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
Also answer pls
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
Look i'd agree but they literally have been in and out of hospital there whole lives.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
It will wait
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
U can raise the issue later but
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:58 a.m.
No one can advocate for them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:59 a.m.
They are unrepresented
mike_bnmike_bn
@polyrabies did you explain to them the risk of representing both of them
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 01:59 a.m.
No I will soon
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:59 a.m.
Let’s do that before we take on co defendants
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 01:59 a.m.
Moving forward
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 02:00 a.m.
Let me know what your clients say
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 02:00 a.m.
Feel free to raise the extra time issue later
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 02:01 a.m.
id also like to state if fox is back i'll be there counsel as they previously requested dos counsel before as they're apart of dps
polyrabiespolyrabies
No I will soon
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:07 a.m.
@mike_bn your honor the bar explicitly prohibits taking on two clients like this without informed consent
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:07 a.m.
Huh
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:07 a.m.
Polyrabies has already staked a significant amount for them
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:07 a.m.
Namely by rejecting a settlement for them
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:08 a.m.
:⁉️:
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:08 a.m.
Which is also in violation of the ethics code
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:08 a.m.
Whatever you say bro.
polyrabiespolyrabies
Whatever you say bro.
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:08 a.m.
Ping me in chamber chat if you wanna discuss it we already got warned once
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:08 a.m.
I am concerned for his clients' rights your jackass
ian
ian 2025-04-26 07:11 a.m.
If polyrabies does not reconsider his behavior to align with the bar's ethical code I will ask that he be substituted and reported to the bar
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:45 a.m.
@polyrabies ok cross talk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:45 a.m.
Once again
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:45 a.m.
Stop
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Secondly
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Tell your clients about the risk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
So they can make a well informed decision
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Your honor respectfully this is open court, I have a reputation to maintain, and need to be able to respond to allegations made by the plaintiff
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
U will be able to
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
if the plaintiff says something outrageous
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
im gonna respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Saying whatever bro
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
He's accusing me of ethical violations your honor
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Can wait
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
so of course Im gonna be mad and want to respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:46 a.m.
Well, you are supposed to tell a new client about your representation of a code defendant before they hire you
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Co defendant*
mike_bnmike_bn
Well, you are supposed to tell a new client about your representation of a code defendant before they hire you
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
they already know
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Auto correct
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Great, but you didn’t explain the risk though
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
I didn't cause i just became their attorney
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Listen, just do it before the 10th
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
like 6 hours
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
ago
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
I will.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Well, you’re supposed to do it before but just get it done
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
Thanks
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:47 a.m.
No cross talk you get permission to respond
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:48 a.m.
Make your argument and zip
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:48 a.m.
Person responds (with leave)(edited)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:48 a.m.
I rule
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 07:48 a.m.
Order of operations for this proceeding and all others on my docket
ian
ian 2025-04-26 08:15 a.m.
@mike_bn could you give me the discord ID of fox
ian
ian 2025-04-26 08:16 a.m.
Poly has insisted I contact them about the extension thing
ian
ian 2025-04-26 08:16 a.m.
But for some reason now completely ignores me in DMs
Offer
Offer 2025-04-26 10:14 a.m.
Free my nigga combatrole
Offer
Offer 2025-04-26 10:14 a.m.
He aint do nun @Combatrole
ian
ian 2025-04-26 10:33 a.m.
ok
OfferOffer
Free my nigga combatrole
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 11:30 a.m.
He is found in criminal contempt
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 11:30 a.m.
Should he decide to rejoin the game he will serve his 2 hour sentence
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-26 11:31 a.m.
@ian
ian
ian 2025-04-26 03:38 p.m.
@polyrabies @mike_bn for the record I've reached out to fox and asked them to comment on their ability to join the discord by may 10th
ian
ian 2025-04-26 03:38 p.m.
they unfriended me
ian
ian 2025-04-26 03:39 p.m.
further reason for us to object to any extension
andrisandris
hello my lawyer is @polyrabies please add him
ian
ian 2025-04-27 09:51 a.m.
@mike_bn did Polyrabies file a notice of appearance
ian
ian 2025-04-27 09:51 a.m.
it's required
ianian
@mike_bn did Polyrabies file a notice of appearance
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:58 a.m.
I wont require it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:58 a.m.
I never do for anyone
mike_bnmike_bn
I wont require it
ian
ian 2025-04-27 12:00 p.m.
Is he still considered counsel of record
ian
ian 2025-04-27 12:02 p.m.
Also the plaintiff intends to move to disqualify @polyrabies unless he recuses voluntarily from the case entirely
ianian
Is he still considered counsel of record
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 02:35 p.m.
For the one defendant yes
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 02:35 p.m.
until he certifies that he told the other prospective client of his of the risk
ian
ian 2025-04-27 04:27 p.m.
MOTION TO DISQUALIFY OPPOSING COUNSEL
Cc @mike_bn @polyrabies
Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gZcnxrdTiiY7S6sL-vyQKbk7YOlyNrx1/view?usp=sharing
ianian
MOTION TO DISQUALIFY OPPOSING COUNSEL Cc @mike_bn @polyrabies Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gZcnxrdTiiY7S6sL-vyQKbk7YOlyNrx1/vie...
ian
ian 2025-04-27 05:32 p.m.
@mike_bn could you set a due date for a response
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-27 08:32 p.m.
heres my response there is no conflict and even if a conflict exists both of my clients waive it thats all
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-27 08:34 p.m.
and both clients are aware of the risk of a conflict of interest
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-27 08:38 p.m.
and the clients are fine with me representing them, theres no issue the plaintiff simply thinks im gonna delay the case and win which is why hes tryna get rid of me as counsel
polyrabiespolyrabies
heres my response there is no conflict and even if a conflict exists both of my clients waive it thats all
ian
ian 2025-04-27 08:39 p.m.
Did you read the motion
ian
ian 2025-04-27 08:39 p.m.
chamber-chat
ian
ian 2025-04-27 08:41 p.m.
@mike_bn if the defense counsel is going to waive a paper response we ask you to interpret the motion as undisputed and order accordingly.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-27 08:43 p.m.
heres my respones to that a response doesnt need to be in paper and i dont need to respond to ur motions anyway, even if there was no response the court cannot assume its undisputed my official response is what i said above ok?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-27 08:44 p.m.
like yur really grasping at straws here to get me off this case and wasting this courts time and delaying this case urself by burdening everyone with ur baseless motions which are friviouls incesstant attemps to get me off a case with no real merit therefore im asking this court sanction the plaintiffs attorney from wasting my time and this courts time
ian
ian 2025-04-27 08:45 p.m.
Cross talk isn't allowed and I won't be sanctioned because of your loud mouth
ian
ian 2025-04-27 08:45 p.m.
Move to chamber chat if you want to refer to me on the record, like I said
polyrabiespolyrabies
heres my respones to that a response doesnt need to be in paper and i dont need to respond to ur motions anyway, even if there was no response the court cannot assume its undispute...
ian
ian 2025-04-27 09:03 p.m.
Your jackass
polyrabiespolyrabies
heres my respones to that a response doesnt need to be in paper and i dont need to respond to ur motions anyway, even if there was no response the court cannot assume its undispute...
ian
ian 2025-04-27 09:05 p.m.
Like Defense counsel has indicated, they won't be filing a paper response, which we believe is necessary—in the case you rule it isn't, we interpret you should grant our motion regardless because this short apparently drunken response fails to address paragraph (d) of the Ethics Code
ianian
MOTION TO DISQUALIFY OPPOSING COUNSEL Cc @mike_bn @polyrabies Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1gZcnxrdTiiY7S6sL-vyQKbk7YOlyNrx1/vie...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:51 p.m.
This is moot
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:51 p.m.
The other defendant fled the jurisdiction of this court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:52 p.m.
Until he re appears he will be unrepresented
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:52 p.m.
The only defendant is combat
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-27 11:52 p.m.
The other stand unrepresented and will remain as such until they appear
mike_bnmike_bn
The other defendant fled the jurisdiction of this court
ian
ian 2025-04-28 05:49 a.m.
The two defendants are shaggy and combat your jackass
ian
ian 2025-04-28 05:49 a.m.
The motion doesnt refer to fox
ian
ian 2025-04-28 05:50 a.m.
Fox is the one that fled
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:47 a.m.
Ah
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:48 a.m.
@polyrabies educate the defendants
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:48 a.m.
About the risk
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:48 a.m.
Which u still haven’t done
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:48 a.m.
And u can appear
mike_bnmike_bn
And u can appear
ian
ian 2025-04-28 10:31 a.m.
Are you denying the motion to disqualify
ian
ian 2025-04-28 10:31 a.m.
That's not the only cause we state
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:47 a.m.
You say a belief that they’re not able to give competent representation
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:47 a.m.
Without even telling me why you believe that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:47 a.m.
I’m not considering it. The only substantive argument is that he didn’t inform the defendant before he became their council of record.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:47 a.m.
Counsel
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:47 a.m.
So he has 24 hours to inform the defendants and get both of their agreements to representing both of them
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 10:48 a.m.
It’s a high bar tell a defendant that he can’t use an attorney he wants to use. I’m not gonna willy-nilly. Throw him off the case because of a mistake which has been addressed and he will address and if he doesn’t address it then he’ll be disqualified and reported to the bar.(edited)
ian
ian 2025-04-28 01:34 p.m.
@mike_bn Your jackass, respectfully, the argument is there is a conflict of interest, and thus he cannot represent his clients adequately.
ian
ian 2025-04-28 01:36 p.m.
There definitely is a bar for telling a defendant he can't use an attorney he wants to use—it's the one I named, prescribed in Wheat. The bar is "that [the sixth amendment presumption to counsel of choice] may be overcome not only by a demonstration of actual conflict but also by a showing of a serious potential for conflict." Id.
ian
ian 2025-04-28 01:36 p.m.
There is conflict. I named it. It's in the motion.
ian
ian 2025-04-28 01:37 p.m.
I believe you've misrepresented what our motion stood for and as such I ask you to reconsider.
mike_bnmike_bn
It’s a high bar tell a defendant that he can’t use an attorney he wants to use. I’m not gonna willy-nilly. Throw him off the case because of a mistake which has been addressed and ...(edited)
ian
ian 2025-04-28 02:48 p.m.
By the way, the issue wasn't addressed. The Defense counsel has continuously been ignoring my DMs and, yesterday, I told them about the conflict and that they should recuse. They once again ignored me, which is why I filed the motion.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 02:49 p.m.
denied end of story
mike_bnmike_bn
denied end of story
ian
ian 2025-04-28 03:04 p.m.
Please make a paper ruling with reason
ian
ian 2025-04-28 03:04 p.m.
for us
ian
ian 2025-04-28 03:04 p.m.
if you could, your jackass
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 03:28 p.m.
no
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 03:29 p.m.
he has 24 hrs to notify the court that his client was warned
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 03:29 p.m.
if not he will not be allowed to represent that other defendant
mike_bnmike_bn
no
ian
ian 2025-04-28 03:33 p.m.
We require a paper ruling
ian
ian 2025-04-28 03:33 p.m.
Or at least a signed order telling him to notify his client within 24 hrs
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 04:08 p.m.
no
mike_bnmike_bn
he has 24 hrs to notify the court that his client was warned
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 04:08 p.m.
this is the ruling
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 04:08 p.m.
cc @polyrabies
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 04:16 p.m.
if u disagree appeal me
mike_bnmike_bn
if u disagree appeal me
ian
ian 2025-04-28 04:20 p.m.
Need a ruling
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 04:30 p.m.
# RULING #

Plaintiff's motion to disqualify counsel is denied.

/s/ insertreality
insertreality
District Court Judge
(edited)
mike_bnmike_bn
he has 24 hrs to notify the court that his client was warned
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-04-28 06:03 p.m.
I did
polyrabiespolyrabies
I did
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 06:32 p.m.
OK, you’re certified to me as an officer of the court that both the defendants are OK with you representing them together
mike_bnmike_bn
# RULING # Plaintiff's motion to disqualify counsel is denied. /s/ insertreality insertreality District Court Judge(edited)
ian
ian 2025-04-28 06:41 p.m.
Seems a bit vague...
UserUser
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ian
ian 2025-04-28 06:49 p.m.
Mx. Underprothonotary this is a channel for court proceedings
ian
ian 2025-04-28 06:49 p.m.
Not random gif tomfoolery
ianian
Seems a bit vague...
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:06 p.m.
Watch your tone
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:06 p.m.
Quit being a salty twat because I don’t agree with you
mike_bnmike_bn
Watch your tone
ian
ian 2025-04-28 07:21 p.m.
I don't mean to be disrespectful your jackass—if we are to appeal the issues which we present will be easier to describe with a detailed ruling from your chambers
ian
ian 2025-04-28 07:23 p.m.
If instead you decide to only issue that short ruling it might be a bit...harder, which is why were expecting an in-depth ruling, preferably in paper—you don't have to though and we'll abide by your decision not to
ian
ian 2025-04-28 07:23 p.m.
(On your own)
ian
ian 2025-04-28 07:24 p.m.
Submitting a motion for clarification is on the table as always
ianian
Need a ruling
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 07:41 p.m.
u need a reason on the record to allow appellate review
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 07:41 p.m.
he stated his reason
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 07:41 p.m.
dm me if u want case law
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:56 p.m.
Its finals week
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:57 p.m.
I’m not sitting down and writing a ruling
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:57 p.m.
For something as stupid
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 07:57 p.m.
Reason is its baseless
ian
ian 2025-04-28 08:11 p.m.
You didnt adequately consider the motion
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 08:15 p.m.
he literally explained why ur two arguments are baseless :😭:
ian
ian 2025-04-28 08:16 p.m.
He didn't
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 08:17 p.m.
what r ur two arguments
Dante
Dante 2025-04-28 08:24 p.m.
Our argument for the motion to disqualify was that a settlement offer was made to one of the co-defendants which is contradictory to the interests of the other defendant. This creates a clear conflict of interest as having one defense counsel represent both co-defendants would compromise the fairness of the settlement negotiation. It would inherently conflict the interests of the two co-defendants against each other of which would actually be considered in different circumstances (Having two separate counsels)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:42 p.m.
how do you know that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:42 p.m.
its privledged #1
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:43 p.m.
#2 you cant just make a conclusory statement and expect me to hear it like its gospel
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:43 p.m.
this is all of this motion
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:43 p.m.
there is no further discussion
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:43 p.m.
you will not change my mind
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:43 p.m.
feel free to appeal me
mike_bnmike_bn
its privledged #1
ian
ian 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
No it's not
ian
ian 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
It went through every federal appeal in Wheat
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
there is no further discussion
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
you will not change my mind
ian
ian 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
Ok
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 08:45 p.m.
feel free to appeal me
ian
ian 2025-04-28 09:14 p.m.
@mike_bn we will be moving for clarification on your ruling for appeal
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:27 p.m.
no
mike_bnmike_bn
no
ian
ian 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
?
ian
ian 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
we do have a due process right to move for clarification to facilitate an appeal
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
its clear enough
mike_bnmike_bn
#2 you cant just make a conclusory statement and expect me to hear it like its gospel
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
right here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
now stop asking me
ian
ian 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
that's not the ruling
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
okay i dont care
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:28 p.m.
its clear
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:29 p.m.
ask me again i dare u
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:29 p.m.
ur becoming very annoying because u didnt get your way
ian
ian 2025-04-28 09:30 p.m.
your jackass we are intending to appeal as per our rights—to facilitate that we also have a right to move for clarification. I won't say anything else if it'd bother you but we will proceeding in that course of action
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:31 p.m.
add a prong to your appeal
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:31 p.m.
if u think i am not clear enough
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:34 p.m.
check with ur client if thats the route u want to go
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:34 p.m.
opinion time for sc is over 6 months
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-28 09:34 p.m.
if cert is granted
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 11:01 p.m.
mahn maybe the motion was unclear
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-04-28 11:01 p.m.
pretty clear reasoning
NicklausNicklaus
pretty clear reasoning
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:56 p.m.
this is my clarification
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:58 p.m.
just because its not in my ruling doesnt mean it doesnt exist
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:58 p.m.
wait until you find out how orders in open court are handled
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:58 p.m.
in the exact same way
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:58 p.m.
since this is, by all definitions, open court
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-04-30 11:59 p.m.
this channel is no different than going for a hearing before a judge in person
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:00 a.m.
motion for clarification denied
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:00 a.m.
it is baseless and moot since the matter has been clarified
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:05 a.m.
your original motion is accusatory at best
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:05 a.m.
"a settlement offer has been presented to Defendant UltraInstinctShxggy that is
adversative to Defendant Combatrole's interests."
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:05 a.m.
how is it adverse
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:06 a.m.
a conclusory statement which i will not consider
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:06 a.m.
"counsel is barred by the Mayflower State Bar Ethical Code from representing" no he is not
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:07 a.m.
im using your case law against you here
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:07 a.m.
in wheat
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:08 a.m.
that is talking about criminal cases
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:08 a.m.
you have no right to counsel in a civil case
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:14 a.m.
looking beyond the context of the case, lets just pretend this case is binding and not merely persuasive (if that)
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:14 a.m.
"demonstration of actual conflict but also by a showing of a serious potential for conflict"
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:15 a.m.
your motion was nothing but finger pointing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:15 a.m.
"oh there is something adverse"
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:15 a.m.
what is it?
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:15 a.m.
its like youre fishing but using a fucking rock as the bait, im not gonna bite
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:16 a.m.
counsel has stated that both clients are okay with it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:17 a.m.
counsel is in compliance with rule 1.7
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:17 a.m.
^ this is all the clarification you are getting
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 12:17 a.m.
nothing else on this let me enjoy my vacation i will be embarking on friday
mike_bnmike_bn
a conclusory statement which i will not consider
ian
ian 2025-05-01 08:11 a.m.
It's supposed to be a settlement offer given in private to UltraInstinctShxggy
ian
ian 2025-05-01 08:11 a.m.
I don't want his co-defendant knowing about it
ian
ian 2025-05-01 08:21 a.m.
Also you should probably assume it as correct considering the defense waived their response
ian
ian 2025-05-01 08:21 a.m.
The reason we moved for clarification is we would like an actual minute ruling specifying the reasons as you originally gave them
mike_bnmike_bn
he has 24 hrs to notify the court that his client was warned
ian
ian 2025-05-01 01:07 p.m.
we want to know if the defense has complied with this
polyrabiespolyrabies
I did
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
l
ian
ian 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
Ok
ianian
I don't want his co-defendant knowing about it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
the rules and your case law conflict
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
im siding with the rules
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
that is all the explaination youre getting there is nothing further
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-01 02:35 p.m.
on this issue
ian
ian 2025-05-01 02:36 p.m.
Ok
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-04 08:21 p.m.
are responses still due the 10th
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-04 08:21 p.m.
there was too much yapping
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-04 08:21 p.m.
Motion to stop yapping
NicklausNicklaus
are responses still due the 10th
ian
ian 2025-05-04 08:21 p.m.
Yes
NicklausNicklaus
are responses still due the 10th
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-05 12:08 a.m.
Yes
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-07 10:43 p.m.
@Dyno
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 03:04 p.m.
@Nicklaus
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 03:04 p.m.
@polyrabies
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 03:43 p.m.
hey will have it when I come inside
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 03:43 p.m.
i been out all day
NicklausNicklaus
hey will have it when I come inside
ian
ian 2025-05-10 03:44 p.m.
No please don't
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 03:44 p.m.
Oh buddy you messed with the wrong guy
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 03:44 p.m.
:🐺:
ian
ian 2025-05-10 03:45 p.m.
Thats not the joke read again
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:32 p.m.
I’ll be inside in like 30 min
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:33 p.m.
it’s gonna be a mtd but I’ll write an actual response to go with it too so we don’t waste 5 more days
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:33 p.m.
Yw :💔:
NicklausNicklaus
it’s gonna be a mtd but I’ll write an actual response to go with it too so we don’t waste 5 more days
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:34 p.m.
pls reply first
mike_bnmike_bn
pls reply first
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:34 p.m.
well I’m worried submitting a reply first waives all the MTD defenses
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Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:34 p.m.
under the rules
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:34 p.m.
and under federal rules
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:35 p.m.
i know for sure under our rules
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:35 p.m.
cuz I’ve looked at it before
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:35 p.m.
@Nicklaus check dms
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:35 p.m.
Okay as long as a reply is in too
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:35 p.m.
by deadline
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
@mike_bn you might be inclined to say no because it's late but hear me out
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
we wish to amend our complaint to stop asking for injunctive relief
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
that way SGO doesnt defend the defendants only poly does
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
which makes it a lot less messy
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
@Nicklaus thoughts?
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:41 p.m.
i've been talking with him
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:42 p.m.
it doesn't prejudice anyone at all—the defendants won't have to change their answer, it's not their job to defend the injunctive part of OFMC
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:42 p.m.
what about the torts against gov
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:43 p.m.
would you want to do away with those as well, or argue individual capacity
mike_bnmike_bn
what about the torts against gov
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:43 p.m.
OFMC is only a tort against government when you're asking for injunctive relief
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:43 p.m.
they defend injunctive relief
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
also for the record toby is disqualified as counsel for plaintiff
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
the monetary part of OFMC is nominally considered official capacity but isn't in reality
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
since he is a judge now
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
oh yea whatever
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
didnt realize he was counsel of record
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
np
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:44 p.m.
okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:45 p.m.
well
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:45 p.m.
<#1357692390567186693>
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:46 p.m.
thats there for my record
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:46 p.m.
okay i get your drift now
mike_bnmike_bn
okay i get your drift now
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:46 p.m.
cool
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
can we drop the injunctive ask
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
its constructively striken
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
amend complaint or just note it as dropped like we did with the lamppost to speed sign thing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
dont bother amending it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
its ok
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
ok great
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
COOL ass beans
mike_bn pinned a message to this channel.2025-08-28 07:30 p.m.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
for my record
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
@Nicklaus thank you
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
bye :👋:
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
so he will still be named in quasi
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
yea
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
but SGO doesnt defend it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:47 p.m.
correct
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
yea
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
@polyrabies take notice please
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
i also may have to recuse from this
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
dont
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
just dont do the bar thing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
too late
ianian
just dont do the bar thing
Nicklaus
Nicklaus 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
skull
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
unless @polyrabies doesnt object
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
omg bro reassignment is gonna delay this daysy
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:48 p.m.
to me presiding over both the displinary hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
days
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
and this
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
i assure you both i can remain impartial
mike_bnmike_bn
to me presiding over both the displinary hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
have nomadity do it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
its okay
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
there are judges hungry for cases
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
so i will leave that
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
@Nicklaus you are excused
mike_bnmike_bn used
/remove
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
Case Modified
@mike_bn has removed @Nicklaus from the case channel.
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
so poly pls send reply and your input
mike_bnmike_bn
@Nicklaus you are excused
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
is there no way i could have you continue presiding over this but not the disciplinary hearing
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:49 p.m.
if you want me to recuse i will, i understand
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:50 p.m.
ehhh ill give it to nom
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:50 p.m.
W
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:50 p.m.
but @polyrabies if u have an objection since i know about the case and did a little work on it
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:50 p.m.
feel free to raise it
mike_bnmike_bn
ehhh ill give it to nom
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:51 p.m.
yes please do that
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:51 p.m.
or did you mean you're doing that but you still might recuse from this
ian
ian 2025-05-10 04:51 p.m.
ill just say we would like you to recuse in the bar but not here. lets see what poly says
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:54 p.m.
I recused bar
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:55 p.m.
But I had some involvement
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 04:55 p.m.
So if poly needs recusal here I respect it
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:26 p.m.
@mike_bn deadline time is very late for me
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:26 p.m.
Can I submit a default package in a couple hours and you consider it submitted after the due date if they dont make the deadline
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:27 p.m.
Cuz otherwise im not gonna be able to submit it in time probably
mike_bn
mike_bn 2025-05-10 06:52 p.m.
bruh yall had forever
mike_bnmike_bn
bruh yall had forever
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:54 p.m.
Uhm
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:55 p.m.
Im the..plaintiff
ian
ian 2025-05-10 06:55 p.m.
What Im asking is to submit a default package before the deadline because the actual deadline is late
mike_bnmike_bn
but @polyrabies if u have an objection since i know about the case and did a little work on it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-10 07:11 p.m.
i object.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-10 07:11 p.m.
and want you to recuse.
ian
ian 2025-05-10 07:11 p.m.
Great
ian
ian 2025-05-10 07:12 p.m.
@Brenda Cornwallis re-assign
ian
ian 2025-05-10 07:12 p.m.
Please
Brenda Cornwallis
Brenda Cornwallis 2025-05-10 09:39 p.m.
Ministeria juris non causa.

Reassigned.
Brenda Cornwallis
Brenda Cornwallis 2025-05-10 09:39 p.m.
@Kezzera
Brenda CornwallisBrenda Cornwallis
Ministeria juris non causa. Reassigned.
ian
ian 2025-05-10 09:47 p.m.
@Kezzera plaintiff requests leave of court to file default package prior to the due date of a response
ian
ian 2025-05-10 09:48 p.m.
because it's due in three or so hours and we believe the defense will not file anything as they're offline (they were pinged multiple times before this lol), and counsel for plaintiff (me) will not be awake at the actual due date
ian
ian 2025-05-10 09:49 p.m.
we ask you allow us to submit the default package and, if the defense does fail to submit a responsive pleading, consider it was submitted after the due date or, if they do submit one, consider the default package moot
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 01:18 a.m.
Filed.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 01:18 a.m.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 03:49 a.m.
there's about a million things i will need to catch up on
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 03:51 a.m.
going forward:
- no yap between eachother. take it to dms or in chambers which you will get access to in a bit, need this decluttered badly
- we're clarifying which stage of the case we're at now
- availability for hearings will be made in advance
- don't complain if you don't get detailed reasons for a particular decision on a motion, etc. that does not require detailed reasons in support
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 03:51 a.m.
me using the :✅: reaction indicates receipt, :❌: is the opposite
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 03:52 a.m.
i will tag counsellors about next steps and clarification on where we're at
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 03:52 a.m.
website will reflect decisions made so far
KezzeraKezzera
going forward: - no yap between eachother. take it to dms or in chambers which you will get access to in a bit, need this decluttered badly - we're clarifying which stage of the ca...
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:53 a.m.
Having the defense filed their answer we would be in pre trial now
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polyrabiespolyrabies
Click to see attachment.
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:55 a.m.
... @Kezzera @polyrabies you are not counsel for foxfragment
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:55 a.m.
Foxfragment is in default
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:02 a.m.
So we'll submit our motion for default judgment on fox
ian
ian 2025-05-11 09:37 a.m.
Ok @Kezzera @polyrabies Plaintiff moves to strike the answer on the grounds that Polyrabies is not the legal representative of FoxFragment
ian
ian 2025-05-11 09:37 a.m.
and if he is, that's irrelevant—Fox needs to be in this Discord for proceedings to take place
ian
ian 2025-05-11 09:37 a.m.
as such we will submit a default package in opposition of him were this motion to be granted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:37 p.m.
so i understand it then that, until it's shown otherwise, foxfragment is not represented
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:38 p.m.
combatrole specifically asked for poly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:38 p.m.
so is UIS
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:39 p.m.
the paperwork is all over the place so im having a pretty difficult time keeping track of what's happened thus far(edited)
ianian
Ok @Kezzera @polyrabies Plaintiff moves to strike the answer on the grounds that Polyrabies is not the legal representative of FoxFragment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:39 p.m.
ok, i will expect that
KezzeraKezzera
the paperwork is all over the place so im having a pretty difficult time keeping track of what's happened thus far(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:40 p.m.
ill try to give the rundown
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:40 p.m.
we sued in individual and OFMC
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:40 p.m.
ok, i see that
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:40 p.m.
fox never wanted to come here
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:40 p.m.
we offered a settlement offer to a defendant adversative to the others so we asked the judge he disqualify defense counsel
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
it was overruled
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
we moved for clarification on that and it was overruled we decided not to appeal
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
then we dropped the equitable relief portion of OFMC which means OSG doesn't represent the defendants
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
and now we're here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
okay, so OSG is out
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:41 p.m.
yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
and poly is the only counsel so far remaining for defendants, save for fox
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
fox is in default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
we can confirm fox is still employed with DOS and is resident here?
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
no
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
he left
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
so fox is just completely gone
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
yes from clark
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:42 p.m.
but he was still summoned
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
insert got a hold of him and served him
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
he very rudely refused to come
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
yes i can see that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
i will stress that it's quite hard to recover anything
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
it's fine, we'
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
within prompt time
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:43 p.m.
sent accidentally
KezzeraKezzera
i will stress that it's quite hard to recover anything
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
if you mean from fox yeah we know but we'd like to proceed
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
in default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
okay, just be aware that it is very unlikely you can recover anything unless they do return
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
yeah i know
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
and i will make it so that you will communicate it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
any decision we make here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
directly to them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
their information has been provided by judge insert for everyone's benefit
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:44 p.m.
we'll move to strike the defense's answer and submit a default judgment package for foxfragment
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
additionally once the answer is stricken we'll move for default on the other two defendants as well, if you'd allow that
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
because it'd mean they havent submitted a non-stricken document before the deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
okay - you can submit separately the two or have it bundled, just distinguish them if bundled
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
in fact they didnt submit anything before the deadline the answer itself was late
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
is it the entire answer you are striking or only the ones pertaining to fox?
ianian
in fact they didnt submit anything before the deadline the answer itself was late
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:45 p.m.
i'll enquire this
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:46 p.m.
we're going to move to strike the entire answer
at least because of the foxfragment part, but likely some more stuff as well
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:46 p.m.
but we will strike the entirety of it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:47 p.m.
if it's only because of fox, i would recommend only as to fox unless there's more basis justifying the entire answer
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:47 p.m.
there's likely going to be more stuff
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:47 p.m.
ok, i will expect that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:47 p.m.
otherwise it will be filed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:47 p.m.
i'm a bit troubled that i see no NOAs but i will just put it in the Rulings/Updates tab of the website
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
reflecting it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
since insert doesn't really fw it as much
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
yea i asked poly submit a NOA but insert said it wasnt necessary
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
yea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
i will ask for NOAs going forward
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
ill probably add co counsel so yes
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:48 p.m.
so should we expect you to entertain a motion for default judgment after the answer is stricken
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:49 p.m.
NOAs would normallybe required but i do not have the energy to force everyone here to file retroactive ones, we're all gathered anyway and there seems to be no dispute as to the appearance now - i will mark it as if NOAs were filed and entered(edited)
ianian
so should we expect you to entertain a motion for default judgment after the answer is stricken
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 12:49 p.m.
well, i need to see the motion..
ian
ian 2025-05-11 12:50 p.m.
Ok
polyrabiespolyrabies
Click to see attachment.
ian
ian 2025-05-11 01:01 p.m.
I asked ChatGPT if he wrote this
ian
ian 2025-05-11 01:03 p.m.
@Kezzera what would be the procedure for disciplining polyrabies if this document was written entirely by AI
ian
ian 2025-05-11 01:03 p.m.
I know it's happened before with chikem tendie but Im not sure what steps to take.
ian
ian 2025-05-11 01:40 p.m.
Filed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:44 p.m.
@polyrabies I've read your answer
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:44 p.m.
Notwithstanding the MTS what on earth are you referring to in your General Denial paragraph
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:45 p.m.
Why is it formatted this way as well
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:45 p.m.
your honor respectfully it's an ass answer and it it's clearly gai generated
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
im not sure if you've read our motion yet
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
I have but I don't think it is necessary at this rate
KezzeraKezzera
Why is it formatted this way as well
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
it's how ChatGPT formats them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
I've seen this formatting before
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
If I go on chatgpt will it format it like this
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:46 p.m.
I know because admittedly I have used chatGPT to write me motions before (when I wasnt certified and just wanted to fool around)
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
it literally formats them like that
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
it gives you the [attorney name] and everything
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
please strike this ong
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
Well the answer is not in proper form
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
So I cannot accept it at all
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
Great
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
This is just ridiculous to say the least
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
And since it's a blatant abuse of the judicial process to file a motion like this (and past the deadline) we will move for default on all three defendants
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:47 p.m.
not just fox
ianian
And since it's a blatant abuse of the judicial process to file a motion like this (and past the deadline) we will move for default on all three defendants
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:48 p.m.
answer*
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:52 p.m.
Well I want an explanation by tomorrow from @polyrabies why he's made a reference to a statute that doesn't exist and why it is not in proper form
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:53 p.m.
Why it's not signed and verified by himself too
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:54 p.m.
I think as the party who also took issue with it you'd probably want to know as well @ian
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:55 p.m.
Yes of course
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:55 p.m.
Can you set a strict deadline so we can move for default if he doesn't make it
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:55 p.m.
For the explanation
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:56 p.m.
Tomorrow
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:56 p.m.
End of day tomorrow
KezzeraKezzera
End of day tomorrow
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:57 p.m.
what timezone are you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:58 p.m.
Bst but I use Pacific time
ian
ian 2025-05-11 06:58 p.m.
Ok PDT EOD tomorrow
✅1
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:58 p.m.
May 12 2025 11:59PM P.T.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:59 p.m.
@polyrabies explanation by then
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 06:59 p.m.
If I hear nothing I will assume you have nothing to say
KezzeraKezzera
If I hear nothing I will assume you have nothing to say
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
In that case could we ask he be held in contempt for submitting chatgpt motions
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
Answers
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
Like chicken tender
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
Temdie faced no sanctions other than a stern warning
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
Yeah but he had a valid excuse
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
I doubt Poly does
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:00 p.m.
He had 18 days to file an answer
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 07:01 p.m.
No he was very junior
ianian
He had 18 days to file an answer
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:01 p.m.
He did it on the last day, rushed, after the deadline and with chatGPT
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 07:01 p.m.
I will consider what the next steps are for the matter
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:01 p.m.
So he is deserving of contempt
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:01 p.m.
Ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 07:02 p.m.
This has been going on for a month almost nowhere so we're stopping further nonsense(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-11 07:02 p.m.
W judge
ianian
@Kezzera plaintiff requests leave of court to file default package prior to the due date of a response
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-11 08:17 p.m.
Denied - default submissions become available if explanation is not provided for answer to complaint issue raised earlier
KezzeraKezzera
Denied - default submissions become available if explanation is not provided for answer to complaint issue raised earlier
ian
ian 2025-05-11 08:34 p.m.
That was before
ian
ian 2025-05-11 08:34 p.m.
It's a moot request
KezzeraKezzera
Well I want an explanation by tomorrow from @polyrabies why he's made a reference to a statute that doesn't exist and why it is not in proper form
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 10:55 p.m.
Hello, which line specifically
KezzeraKezzera
Why it's not signed and verified by himself too
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:00 p.m.
Okay so, as for the signature that was a Computer formating issue
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:01 p.m.
basically it didnt add my signature, and i didnt believe it was a huge issue as its just a signature
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:01 p.m.
No pazrty
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:01 p.m.
party is contesting whethere this was infact a response generaed by me
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:02 p.m.
so i dont think it should be an issue cause i filed it with my discord acc, so i'd assume thats enough verification. thats my explanation
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:06 p.m.
as for this, this was a mistake i copy and pasted the wrong citation
KezzeraKezzera
So I cannot accept it at all
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:13 p.m.
If you can't its ok, in the case my clients do have to pay I would make this court aware that they aren't able to pay and it will take them 2-3 months to make enough money to pay.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:14 p.m.
That's all I have to say. Hope we all have an amazing day.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-11 11:17 p.m.
Oh and I forgot to say as to explain "why its not in proper form"? I'd assume it is, it does respond to the allegations in the civil complaint and does serve as a response.
ian
ian 2025-05-12 05:38 a.m.
@polyrabies is this pleading AI generated
ian
ian 2025-05-12 05:44 a.m.
@Kezzera I request a formal hearing to strike the answer and after that an OSC hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:27 a.m.
@Kezzera
ianian
@Kezzera I request a formal hearing to strike the answer and after that an OSC hearing
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 07:00 a.m.
order of show cause hearing cause a signature was missing?
polyrabiespolyrabies
Okay so, as for the signature that was a Computer formating issue
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:44 a.m.
..computer formatting issue?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:44 a.m.
what tool do you use??
polyrabiespolyrabies
Oh and I forgot to say as to explain "why its not in proper form"? I'd assume it is, it does respond to the allegations in the civil complaint and does serve as a response.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:45 a.m.
no.. you need to include the name of parties
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:45 a.m.
i remember you doing that in a previous case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:45 a.m.
so i don't knowwhat happened here
polyrabiespolyrabies
If you can't its ok, in the case my clients do have to pay I would make this court aware that they aren't able to pay and it will take them 2-3 months to make enough money to pay.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:45 a.m.
you aren't willing to at least propose a new submission of some kind?(edited)
ianian
@Kezzera I request a formal hearing to strike the answer and after that an OSC hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:46 a.m.
i've already rejected the answer, he can still submit a new one(edited)
polyrabiespolyrabies
as for this, this was a mistake i copy and pasted the wrong citation
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 08:46 a.m.
what were you meaning to cite?
KezzeraKezzera
i've already rejected the answer, he can still submit a new one(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-12 09:52 a.m.
We move for default
ian
ian 2025-05-12 09:52 a.m.
We'll submit a default judgment package once Im out of school as soon as I can
polyrabiespolyrabies
order of show cause hearing cause a signature was missing?
ian
ian 2025-05-12 09:52 a.m.
Order to show cause why you filed a clearly ChatGPT-written document into the court's record
KezzeraKezzera
you aren't willing to at least propose a new submission of some kind?(edited)
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 09:53 a.m.
i will submit a new 1
ianian
Order to show cause why you filed a clearly ChatGPT-written document into the court's record
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 09:53 a.m.
ur allowed to use chatgpt
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 09:53 a.m.
anyone can
KezzeraKezzera
what tool do you use??
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 09:53 a.m.
e signature
KezzeraKezzera
what were you meaning to cite?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 09:54 a.m.
case law
polyrabiespolyrabies
ur allowed to use chatgpt
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:37 a.m.
...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:37 a.m.
did you use gpt?
polyrabiespolyrabies
case law
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:38 a.m.
it's extremely unnecessary
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:41 a.m.
i never had to refer to any case law for something that parties know they are able to do
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:41 a.m.
don't even know how you confuse a citation of statute and a citation of case law
ianian
We move for default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:42 a.m.
this is your choice
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 10:58 a.m.
ok, here's what im going to do so i don't invite chaos
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 11:02 a.m.
@polyrabies @ian

For defense counsel:
- you will answer all the remaining questions before you file an answer, i want to know if and to what extent ChatGPT was used, including the citations. from that i will determine whether a hearing is warranted or if i will just give you another opportunity to submit an answer

For plaintiff counsel:
- you are asked to hold off on submitting your motions until I invite you to do so - i'm curious about defense counsel's submissions and i will not subject you to any unnecessary filings (that is dependent on what defense counsel can submit, etc.)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 11:02 a.m.
if a hearing is warranted, it will be specifically because of the discrepancies in the initial answer to complaint(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 11:04 a.m.
both of you are free to prepare your submissions, i just won't accept them right away(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
@polyrabies @ian For defense counsel: - you will answer all the remaining questions before you file an answer, i want to know if and to what extent C...
ian
ian 2025-05-12 11:22 a.m.
Let me know when I can submit my filings please
ian
ian 2025-05-12 11:22 a.m.
We intend to motion for an order to show cause (if you dont do it yourself), motion for default and motion for sanctions maybe
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 02:08 p.m.
ok
KezzeraKezzera
@polyrabies @ian For defense counsel: - you will answer all the remaining questions before you file an answer, i want to know if and to what extent C...
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 05:43 p.m.
ChatGPT wasn’t used
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 05:43 p.m.
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 05:43 p.m.
Ignore voice note
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-12 05:43 p.m.
Accident
polyrabiespolyrabies
ChatGPT wasn’t used
ian
ian 2025-05-12 05:46 p.m.
@Kezzera obviously this is a lie
ian
ian 2025-05-12 05:47 p.m.
We ask he be required to say it under oath in an OSC hearing so we can have him prosecuted for perjury after proving it is GAI-written
polyrabiespolyrabies
ChatGPT wasn’t used
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 05:52 p.m.
you swear?(edited)
polyrabiespolyrabies
ur allowed to use chatgpt
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:03 p.m.
Federal precedent holds "there is nothing inherently improper about using a reliable artificial intelligence tool for assistance. But existing rules impose a gatekeeping role on attorneys to ensure the accuracy of their filings." Mata v. Avianca, Inc., No. 2022-CV-1461 (S.D.N.Y. 2022) (unpublished opinion and order) (available at https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/district-courts/new-york/nysdce/1:2022cv01461/575368/55/)
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:04 p.m.
I would argue this is not a reliable tool
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:04 p.m.
And you still 100% violated the second prong
KezzeraKezzera
you swear?(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:04 p.m.
Is this an official administering of an oath?
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:04 p.m.
If not we ask it be official
ian
ian 2025-05-12 06:05 p.m.
And preferably by EOD today so we can continue with the case. This is taking way too long and Defense counsel is intentionally wasting the court's time by failing to answer for long periods of time, prolonging the case and prejudicing my client
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:03 p.m.
i don't think we'll even do a hearing

@polyrabies at the moment we're past the given deadline of may 10 for defense's answer- you've had time to chip away at it and i received something that i reasonably cannot accept
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:04 p.m.
the plaintiff is now free to go forward with their actions
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:04 p.m.
default?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:04 p.m.
you don't have time to file anymore - tell me why i should change my mind @polyrabies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:04 p.m.
and give you a new deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:06 p.m.
you've not given me much to work with in your response to my questions
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:10 p.m.
order incoming possibly
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:10 p.m.
lot of typing
KezzeraKezzera
you don't have time to file anymore - tell me why i should change my mind @polyrabies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:11 p.m.
here are some questions you can answer:
- you've had around three weeks to write and submit this; why did these avoidable issues occur
- what is the case law you wanted to reference (for some reason) in your GD
- your e-signature response is insufficient - i have never seen this happen with "e signature" tools and i want you to tell me what the name of this tool is to back up your claim
- are you willing to submit a proper answer, and if so when
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:11 p.m.
your honor could we ask they not be given the possibility to submit a new answer
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
i want you to respond to this by Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 6:59 p.m.
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
the chatgpt answer in itself was submitted late
KezzeraKezzera
i want you to respond to this by Tuesday, May 13, 2025 at 6:59 p.m.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
@polyrabies
ianian
the chatgpt answer in itself was submitted late
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
they won't be unless i change my mind
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
okay
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
can i move for default then
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
at this rate it's a matter of whether i grant an extension and i have given them one last opportunity
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
yes you can
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:12 p.m.
thanks
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:13 p.m.
i won't consider it until a response is made
KezzeraKezzera
at this rate it's a matter of whether i grant an extension and i have given them one last opportunity
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:13 p.m.
in my opinion you've been more than lenient
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:13 p.m.
you won't need to refile it if it falls through the first time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:13 p.m.
it's amendable
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:14 p.m.
usually before a deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:14 p.m.
i will be extra nice here in observance of finals week
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:14 p.m.
i assume everyone here is doing one
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:15 p.m.
file it through the website, here's the case link
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:15 p.m.
Clark County District Court online systems
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:16 p.m.
you should both now have permission to file
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:19 p.m.
PLAINTIFF DEFAULT JUDGMENT PACKAGE
Cc @Kezzera
Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cEY329LMfDG7MQWhQa_ue4DTbG6lY5sL/view?usp=sharing
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:21 p.m.
@Dante confirm u can type here
KezzeraKezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:22 p.m.
add dante
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-12 07:23 p.m.
ok
ianian
PLAINTIFF DEFAULT JUDGMENT PACKAGE Cc @Kezzera Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1cEY329LMfDG7MQWhQa_ue4DTbG6lY5sL/view?usp=sharing
ian
ian 2025-05-12 07:23 p.m.
filed
Dante
Dante 2025-05-12 07:33 p.m.
Confirming
KezzeraKezzera
here are some questions you can answer: - you've had around three weeks to write and submit this; why did these avoidable issues occur - what is the case law you wanted to referenc...
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-13 01:31 a.m.
1. Well I didn’t have 3 weeks this case was constantly delayed as I was originally representing fox but they fled Clark and I had to try my best to ascertain what was going on with that as fox was a defendant so that took some time as fox was going through mental health complications irl

2. I forgot ngl I will try remember

3. It’s called docusign it provides an e signature but it’s buggy so the signature didn’t print
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-13 01:31 a.m.
I am willing to submit a proper answer within 24 hours if you allow me to do so
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
Fox was literally never represented by you he left Clark before we filed the suit
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
You knew that
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
2. Chatgpt
polyrabiespolyrabies
I am willing to submit a proper answer within 24 hours if you allow me to do so
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
we object
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
He literally keeps saying it's not got
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:25 a.m.
Gpt*
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:26 a.m.
like just give it up bro holy bajeesus
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:26 a.m.
Allow us to move for sanctions please
polyrabiespolyrabies
1. Well I didn’t have 3 weeks this case was constantly delayed as I was originally representing fox but they fled Clark and I had to try my best to ascertain what was going on with...
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:30 a.m.
Also where'd the fake citation come from??? It's chatgpt give it up
polyrabiespolyrabies
1. Well I didn’t have 3 weeks this case was constantly delayed as I was originally representing fox but they fled Clark and I had to try my best to ascertain what was going on with...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:51 a.m.
1. i appreciate that fox is struggling with a serious mental health issue, so i will give the benefit of the doubt on that one
2. that's unacceptable
3. ok, i use docusign and i don't think that is what docusign does - it usually asks you to press/click on a field and you either handwrite or attach a pretyped/written electronic signature to the field already completed in advance
(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:52 a.m.
i don't know why you need that tool anyway, it's very extra for stuff happening here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:53 a.m.
i won't allow an extension, i cannot see any good reason here - sorry
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:53 a.m.
@ian your default package is entered
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:55 a.m.
i will ask either of you to file a motion requesting an evidentiary hearing to assess proposed damages
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:56 a.m.
(for plaintiff it's out of your own courtesy) (for the defendant this would be another opportunity for you to combat this)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 11:59 a.m.
i cannot consider fox's mental health as a part of assessment of damages, or for any aspect of the proceedings. i can only consider it as to their ability to partake in proceedings or as a beneficial (to them) factor as to why they cannot attend/were late, etc. (if anything, no MH defense was raised and raising one now would be quite problematic - may involve the seeking of advice from community moderation as to its compliance with Roblox TOS and community rules since MH is an extremely sensitive matter and never appropriate to utilize in a virtual game roleplay setting)(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
@ian your default package is entered
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:02 p.m.
Thank you judge
KezzeraKezzera
i cannot consider fox's mental health as a part of assessment of damages, or for any aspect of the proceedings. i can only consider it as to their ability to partake in proceedings...(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:03 p.m.
Yes I agree
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:03 p.m.
I will move for an evidentiary hearing later
KezzeraKezzera
i cannot consider fox's mental health as a part of assessment of damages, or for any aspect of the proceedings. i can only consider it as to their ability to partake in proceedings...(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 12:04 p.m.
@polyrabies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 12:04 p.m.
and for above
ianian
I will move for an evidentiary hearing later
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 12:04 p.m.
ok, thanks
KezzeraKezzera
ok, thanks
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:55 p.m.
Actually
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:55 p.m.
Wouldnt the defense have to
ian
ian 2025-05-13 12:55 p.m.
It's better for us if there isn't one as they wouldn't be able to argue against us
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-13 01:20 p.m.
well we're gonna have to do it either way
KezzeraKezzera
well we're gonna have to do it either way
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:15 p.m.
Why
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:15 p.m.
We don't
ian
ian 2025-05-13 06:16 p.m.
I'll motion for a hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-13 09:01 p.m.
@Kezzera could I just move you orally
ian
ian 2025-05-13 09:01 p.m.
for a hearing
ianian
@Kezzera could I just move you orally
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-14 09:47 a.m.
no, has to be in writing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-14 09:47 a.m.
part of the rules
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-14 09:47 a.m.
@polyrabies for your benefit as well
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-14 09:48 a.m.
see above
KezzeraKezzera
no, has to be in writing
ian
ian 2025-05-14 12:51 p.m.
OK.
ianian
PLAINTIFF MOTION FOR AN EVIDENTIARY HEARING Cc: @Kezzera @polyrabies Courtesy Link: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1rWUR2-DqGKx7Tazcd9mfWunl-GY0Hz...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-14 09:18 p.m.
@polyrabies did you receive this?
KezzeraKezzera
@polyrabies did you receive this?
ian
ian 2025-05-14 09:20 p.m.
I pinged him
ian
ian 2025-05-14 09:21 p.m.
He is in receipt
ian
ian 2025-05-14 09:21 p.m.
We should begin
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-15 01:25 a.m.
Now I have
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:15 a.m.
@polyrabies are you opposed to this hearing taking place because its unnecessary, etc., or for any other reason?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-15 06:15 a.m.
No
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:17 a.m.
okay i'll take it as that you will not oppose the motion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:17 a.m.
@ian I grant this motion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:18 a.m.
An order will be entered relating to the evidentiary hearing, including direction on what to prepare and scheduling
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:18 a.m.
@polyrabies cc
KezzeraKezzera
An order will be entered relating to the evidentiary hearing, including direction on what to prepare and scheduling
ian
ian 2025-05-15 06:19 a.m.
Can we make it continuous
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:27 a.m.
sorry?
ian
ian 2025-05-15 06:27 a.m.
Over Discord
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:32 a.m.
is there a good reason why?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 06:32 a.m.
@ian
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 07:55 a.m.
we'll do just a simple meeting, doesn't have to be elaborate
KezzeraKezzera
is there a good reason why?
ian
ian 2025-05-15 09:48 a.m.
Better for me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 11:48 a.m.
we'll meet instead :)
KezzeraKezzera
we'll meet instead :)
ian
ian 2025-05-15 01:04 p.m.
I don't see the point
ian
ian 2025-05-15 01:04 p.m.
Over Discord is much easier
ian
ian 2025-05-15 01:04 p.m.
Otherwise I have to find availability
ian
ian 2025-05-15 01:04 p.m.
And a way to get to the court because I don't play Clark and that will delay it
ianian
And a way to get to the court because I don't play Clark and that will delay it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:31 p.m.
that's not very good to hear
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:31 p.m.
if at all
KezzeraKezzera
that's not very good to hear
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:31 p.m.
I don't play Clark
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:31 p.m.
I'm not ashamed of it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:32 p.m.
have you ever played it
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:32 p.m.
I just help people who do that have been wronged
KezzeraKezzera
have you ever played it
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:32 p.m.
Yes I've joined briefly to get paid, swear oaths, etc before
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:32 p.m.
Not actually played
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:33 p.m.
I've never done anything in it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:33 p.m.
ok, well, in the interest of helping your client you can also appear in-game as required(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:33 p.m.
i will give you directions or arrange transport
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:33 p.m.
If you so wish
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:34 p.m.
i'm quite against doing anything with a 24 hour window
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:34 p.m.
or w/e
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:34 p.m.
Whenever I've needed to go somewhere since I don't know the map I just call a trusted taxi company
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:34 p.m.
i recommend Lander City Taxi Services or our reliable Mayflower Transport Authority Shuttle Service
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:35 p.m.
MTA is inactive
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:35 p.m.
I always used Columbia Taxi or something like that but they shut down so I'm onto LRTA now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:38 p.m.
i confuse lrta for umia for some reason
ianian
MTA is inactive
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:38 p.m.
i see their shuttles quite often
KezzeraKezzera
i see their shuttles quite often
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:38 p.m.
You probably do because you play quite often
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:38 p.m.
I myself don't play
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:39 p.m.
you WILL play the Hit game Clark County and Love it
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:39 p.m.
If they're on 30% of the time you have a somewhat likely chance of seeing them—for me it's nearly zero
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:39 p.m.
can you clarify your timezone?
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:39 p.m.
UTC-3
KezzeraKezzera
you WILL play the Hit game Clark County and Love it
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:40 p.m.
Yes I will :🤖::🤖:
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:40 p.m.
if we can't find availability then we'll just make it where both submit material
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:41 p.m.
and agree on rounds of assessments before i make it final
ian
ian 2025-05-15 05:41 p.m.
Ok fine by me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:46 p.m.
you'll get drafts then you both can indicate whether it's a fair assessment or if there needs to be corrections made on technical grounds
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:47 p.m.
i have the most up to date and available guidance with me so i dont think i'll be off
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-15 05:47 p.m.
@ian @polyrabies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 08:21 a.m.
@polyrabies before default is given and entered, you are reminded of your right under rule 37 of the civil rules
KezzeraKezzera
@polyrabies before default is given and entered, you are reminded of your right under rule 37 of the civil rules
ian
ian 2025-05-16 02:48 p.m.
Uh uhm
ian
ian 2025-05-16 02:48 p.m.
Default was entered
KezzeraKezzera
@ian your default package is entered
ian
ian 2025-05-16 02:48 p.m.
?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 02:53 p.m.
i shouldve corrected that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 02:53 p.m.
i meant filed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 02:54 p.m.
@ian
KezzeraKezzera
i meant filed
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:01 p.m.
Judge
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:01 p.m.
You said that right before saying he wouldn't be allowed an extension
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:01 p.m.
I think it's pretty clear the meaning is that it's entered
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:02 p.m.
If not why are we having an evidentiary hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:02 p.m.
We're strictly against the court going back on its order without cause
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:02 p.m.
well we never went back on anything
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:02 p.m.
but i did say entered
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:03 p.m.
so, oh well
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:03 p.m.
Thanks
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:03 p.m.
If you could set a date for the hearing when you could, please
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:03 p.m.
i'll put the paper out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:03 p.m.
confirming the entering of default judgment and the hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
which i believe is unopposed
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
I mean
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
It's been like
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
It's been three days since it was entered
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
Probably five days since it was requested
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
Literally no opposition from then
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:04 p.m.
So if they do intend to oppose we'll be against it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:08 p.m.
they said no and i said that i'll take it as unopposed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:08 p.m.
i've already got the papers drafted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-16 03:08 p.m.
just look out for scheduling link shortly
ian
ian 2025-05-16 03:17 p.m.
OK
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 05:25 p.m.
@ian @polyrabies Orders have now been entered
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 05:25 p.m.
See the website for them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 05:25 p.m.
The motion made under rule 37g is granted and a written order is attached containing information requested - to be made into a bundle
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 05:26 p.m.
If anything listed within that order has been submitted kindly point this out in your bundle - if something cannot be produce provide a reason why, if possible
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-17 08:33 p.m.
wont let me log in
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-17 08:33 p.m.
to the site
polyrabiespolyrabies
wont let me log in
ian
ian 2025-05-17 08:44 p.m.
you don't have to
ian
ian 2025-05-17 08:45 p.m.
Clark County District Court online systems
ian
ian 2025-05-17 08:45 p.m.
whats up with you not making the deadline and then using chatgpt for it by the way
ian
ian 2025-05-17 08:45 p.m.
I thought you were the best lawyer in Clark (and barely 16)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 11:09 p.m.
counsellor
ianian
I thought you were the best lawyer in Clark (and barely 16)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 11:09 p.m.
i'm going to ask you to refrain from making any further comments about this now
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:10 p.m.
I won't
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:10 p.m.
Bundle by 21st
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:10 p.m.
Your owner
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 11:15 p.m.
what?
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:15 p.m.
Your owner
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:16 p.m.
Like your honor but with a comedic twist
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:16 p.m.
Like in Suits
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-17 11:37 p.m.
i think your honor is suitable
ian
ian 2025-05-17 11:38 p.m.
As you please
✅1
ian
ian 2025-05-19 05:36 p.m.
@Kezzera why doesn't it go back from 10 am
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 05:56 p.m.
i set it for 9am-12am
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 06:20 p.m.
do you see something different?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 06:20 p.m.
@ian
KezzeraKezzera
do you see something different?
ian
ian 2025-05-19 06:40 p.m.
just the timezone prob
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 07:14 p.m.
i think you can set it to local
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 07:36 p.m.
@ian if there's difficulty let meknow, can use a diff link
KezzeraKezzera
@ian if there's difficulty let meknow, can use a diff link
ian
ian 2025-05-19 07:38 p.m.
its fine
ian
ian 2025-05-19 07:38 p.m.
i put my availability in
ian
ian 2025-05-19 07:39 p.m.
yellow means maybe not sure or can accommodate with time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-19 07:39 p.m.
thanks
ian
ian 2025-05-20 09:41 p.m.
@Kezzera bundle tomorrow
ian
ian 2025-05-20 09:41 p.m.
Not sure if you set a time deadline
ian
ian 2025-05-20 09:41 p.m.
But yea ill send tomorrow
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 02:42 p.m.
assume 11:59pm et if i haven't put a time
KezzeraKezzera
assume 11:59pm et if i haven't put a time
ian
ian 2025-05-21 02:42 p.m.
When is that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 02:42 p.m.
from now?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 02:42 p.m.
uhh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 02:45 p.m.
@ian 4 months ago
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 02:45 p.m.
@polyrabies ^
ian
ian 2025-05-21 02:49 p.m.
Ok
ian
ian 2025-05-21 06:36 p.m.
I dont wanna do a bundle bruhh
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 07:12 p.m.
i cant make it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 07:12 p.m.
i have school
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
okay, i think i've had enough
ianian
I dont wanna do a bundle bruhh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
do it
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
@Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
I will do it
polyrabiespolyrabies
i have school
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
you shouldve told me
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
Because I have to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
that your schooling may or will prevent
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
you tell me this on the deadline for your bundle
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
(to polyrabies)
KezzeraKezzera
you shouldve told me
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:16 p.m.
We ask they be excluded from the proceedings from now on
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:17 p.m.
i won't do that but if i don't receive the material then i will just consider what is available to me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:17 p.m.
and assess that way
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:17 p.m.
Your honor irl defenses rarely get to appear if they are in default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:18 p.m.
if defense counsel won't be able to appear then i revert to my previous option where we'll do just do it remotely, and informally
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:18 p.m.
I can assume with a lot of certainty that they never get to if they not only are in default but don't submit a bundle for an evidentiary hearing
KezzeraKezzera
if defense counsel won't be able to appear then i revert to my previous option where we'll do just do it remotely, and informally
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:18 p.m.
Without them?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:18 p.m.
no, they'll be here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:18 p.m.
it'll be done over discord
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:19 p.m.
but that's if i really have any questions at this rate
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:19 p.m.
If I may ask why are they being included
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:19 p.m.
If they've failed time and time again to do absolutely anything
ianian
I can assume with a lot of certainty that they never get to if they not only are in default but don't submit a bundle for an evidentiary hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:19 p.m.
an attorney will at least submit something, or nothing if that is their position
ianian
If I may ask why are they being included
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:19 p.m.
im not kicking out the defense counsel out of a discord case channel unless they're disruptive
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
if they don't want to submit, they're at a massive loss
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
They shouldn't be a part of the proceddings at all
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
if they can't, then they should explain or suffer the same
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
move it, i'm not doing it on my own accord
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
Your honor it's common practice they be excluded if they didnt submit anything not even for the hearing
KezzeraKezzera
move it, i'm not doing it on my own accord
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
This is my motion
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:20 p.m.
Unless you'd have it in paper only
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:21 p.m.
i don't even know why we're arguing this
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:21 p.m.
I don't want him to be able to appear and argue damages
ianian
Your honor it's common practice they be excluded if they didnt submit anything not even for the hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:21 p.m.
okay? not here, they're still copied in even if they don't bother to do shit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:21 p.m.
he won't get the opportunity if he does NOTHING
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
He still will be allowed to argue to lower damages in opposition of what we present
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
Which is not what should happen
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
He shouldnt be there
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
if he submits anything within the time i have given
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
Defendants and their counsel are excluded from the proceedings when in default
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
It proceeds ex parte, of sorts
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
otherwise no, i don't have to hear their arguments since they've now lost that opportunity
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
Ok
KezzeraKezzera
if he submits anything within the time i have given
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:22 p.m.
Of course I'm only asking IF he doesnt make the deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
obviously not..
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
Right
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
Ok
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
I'll be asleep by deadline but I'll hold you to it tomorrow your honor
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
i have the deadline set
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:23 p.m.
if you don't submit it by then i will just proceed with what i have from you so far
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:24 p.m.
i make 0 exceptions
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:24 p.m.
Im confused
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:24 p.m.
Is there going to be a hearing either way
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:24 p.m.
i meant the bundle
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:25 p.m.
defense counsel said they cannot make it because of school, so we'll just hold it here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:25 p.m.
if we need to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:26 p.m.
judging by how things are going i don't think that will really be necessary
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:26 p.m.
So most likely, we'll submit the bundle, defense will default, and you'll consider on your own accord
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:26 p.m.
?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:26 p.m.
yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 08:26 p.m.
unless something changes
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:56 p.m.
@Kezzera how would we like
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:56 p.m.
present testimony
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:56 p.m.
without a hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:57 p.m.
my understanding up to this was there was going to be a hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-21 08:57 p.m.
Id like it if we could do the hearing so we can explain our case (defense not being allowed to attend or argue unless they do make the deadline) and present testimony
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:37 p.m.
@Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:37 p.m.
no testimony im assuming
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:37 p.m.
unfortunate
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:39 p.m.
call it a day
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:39 p.m.
Im going to sleep
ianian
my understanding up to this was there was going to be a hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:40 p.m.
we could do it if you intend to call them, but i am not aware of your intention
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:40 p.m.
and we can still do it async, not preferable but if i have to then fine
KezzeraKezzera
and we can still do it async, not preferable but if i have to then fine
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:46 p.m.
Lets do async with witnesses
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:46 p.m.
I already filed without witness list
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:47 p.m.
Could we just note witness 1 is thejonathantank (plaintiff, lay)
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:47 p.m.
Thats it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:53 p.m.
well, defense counsel would then participate
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:53 p.m.
and test the evidence
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:53 p.m.
No I'd object to that your honor
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:53 p.m.
They shouldnt participate either way
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:53 p.m.
Async or not
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:55 p.m.
do you see where that might, in fact, be an issue?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
is there a legal basis for me to hold an evidentiary hearing without the other party being afforded an opportunity to test* the evidence? is there anything to support that?(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
It's common in default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
where the fuck do you get this from?
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
Ill find you something
KezzeraKezzera
where the fuck do you get this from?
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
Can I actually find it
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
Tomorrow
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:58 p.m.
Im in bed rn
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 09:59 p.m.
okay
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:59 p.m.
Hearing wont be till late tomorrow anyway, at the least
ian
ian 2025-05-21 09:59 p.m.
Ok ty good night
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 10:35 p.m.
if you mean a prima facie showing on ur end, i get that - i've just never heard of the defense counsel not being allowed to appear at least in this scenario considering they did at least make an appearance in the case (to clarify)(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
you shouldve told me
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 10:41 p.m.
sorry i was busy with school so i really didnt see the scheduling request until tday to be exact i have school monday - friday 9-3pm australian time i could probably skip school but my parents would kill me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 10:43 p.m.
let's not skip school over this
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 10:43 p.m.
we can just do it via discord asynchronously if we have to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 10:43 p.m.
with one guy expected to be called, i really doubt there'd be difficulties over that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 10:44 p.m.
if it were to happen i'd just ask that questions be answered in one go, and try to control the amount of back-and-forth
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 10:49 p.m.
this is mny schedule for this week
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 10:50 p.m.
so i dont think i'll be able to cause
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-21 10:50 p.m.
ur british i think and after 3 pm schooltime for me it's like 1 am for u or something
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 11:49 p.m.
(THE ABOVE IMAGE WAS DELETED AND MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CHANNEL TO PREVENT UNNECESSARY PUBLIC DISCLOSURE)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 11:50 p.m.
Note: Image was related to Defense Counsel's availability
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 11:51 p.m.
ok, if the evidentiary hearing were to proceed, we will do it asynchronously - in that case instructions will be given on how to proceed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-21 11:52 p.m.
it will be done here if it were to happen - this will allow enough time for response
KezzeraKezzera
(THE ABOVE IMAGE WAS DELETED AND MOVED TO A DIFFERENT CHANNEL TO PREVENT UNNECESSARY PUBLIC DISCLOSURE)
ian
ian 2025-05-22 07:20 a.m.
Can you put it in Scheduling
KezzeraKezzera
it will be done here if it were to happen - this will allow enough time for response
ian
ian 2025-05-22 07:21 a.m.
I will argue he don't make a case later
ianian
Can you put it in Scheduling
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 07:43 a.m.
no on pii grounds
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 07:43 a.m.
His times are wholly incompatible
ianian
I will argue he don't make a case later
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 07:45 a.m.
you really take issue with them even being allowed the ability to attend at least, but you'll provide evidence
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 07:46 a.m.
someone's at least gotta be there if they can be here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 08:02 a.m.
they're very much an argument to be made that they be allowed to challenge the amount of damages sought - there's case law in various and comparable jurisdictions where it supports them to do this; whether the missing of a bundle deadline and potentially others may preclude them from participating now is a strong factor to consider and potentially a matter of law - I would expect something on this or some procedural barring against the defaulting party in this state (not aware of anything explicit)(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
they're very much an argument to be made that they be allowed to challenge the amount of damages sought - there's case law in various and comparable jurisdictions where it supports...(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:11 a.m.
OK, I don't object to his attendance
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:11 a.m.
Again our only witness is thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:11 a.m.
Lay
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:11 a.m.
We're ready for the hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:12 a.m.
We would however ask the court impose some sort of other sanction (contempt, fine) for disregarding the Court's order
ian
ian 2025-05-22 08:12 a.m.
And for bad representation
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 09:15 a.m.
ok, i may consider it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 09:16 a.m.
but the missing of a deadline here would proportionally be met with the barring of them not being able to raise anything new at this stage
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 09:16 a.m.
unless it is directly challenging the testimony of the witness(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 09:16 a.m.
and that would be it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-22 09:16 a.m.
i will make that clear in an order later today
ian
ian 2025-05-22 06:49 p.m.
@Kezzera reminder for the order
ian
ian 2025-05-22 06:49 p.m.
and set a date
ianian
call it a day
ian
ian 2025-05-23 09:34 a.m.
I didnt upload this to the website
ian
ian 2025-05-23 09:34 a.m.
Ill do that once Im out of school
ian
ian 2025-05-23 09:37 a.m.
Nvm done
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-23 12:37 p.m.
ok, thanks
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-23 08:10 p.m.
@ian @polyrabies Order for the hearing is entered

Hearing is set to begin FROM 12:00am ET MAY 24, 2025. This is asynchronous and done here on Discord.

Directions:
1. Plaintiff will make an opening address, and present the witness. Entering of evidence is to be done contemporaneously with a bulk set of questions.
2. Questions to the witnesses will be given in bulk form. References to evidence is made in advance and included in the bulk of questions.
3. Witness will answer to the bulk of questions in the same (bulk) manner.
4. Follow up questions are to be in bulk, and answered in the same manner.
5. When ended, Defense Counsel may cross examine. All questions must be in bulk, and answered in the same manner.
6. Defense Counsel may make reference to evidence, which is only the evidence entered by plaintiff
7. Defense Counsel cannot enter their evidence as there is none to refer to.
(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-23 08:10 p.m.
Max Duration: 2 days
KezzeraKezzera
@ian @polyrabies Order for the hearing is entered Hearing is set to begin FROM 12:00am ET MAY 24, 2025. This is asynchronous and done here on Discord....(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-23 08:37 p.m.
Whats 12 pm et
ian
ian 2025-05-23 08:38 p.m.
When is it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-23 08:44 p.m.
12am, in 3hr 16 min
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-23 08:49 p.m.
you can start it whenever after 12am et(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
you can start it whenever after 12am et(edited)
ian
ian 2025-05-24 07:36 a.m.
Hi
ian
ian 2025-05-24 07:36 a.m.
I was asleep
ian
ian 2025-05-24 07:36 a.m.
I'll deliver opening now
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:11 a.m.
@Kezzera you'd need to give my client access to the channel
✅1
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:18 a.m.
Your Honor, today we will present evidence and testimony that clearly demonstrate the actions of the Defendants were egregiously and outstandingly evil, and the Plaintiff suffered as a result. These were actions that officers of law don't think to do, ever—conduct that, unpunished, will collapse society. This court should not only punish the Defendants heavily, but award the Plaintiff such compensation we listed in our bundle, so that justice can be made and our Plaintiff can rest.
Thank you.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:18 a.m.
For our witness we call @thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:18 a.m.
He cant speak tho
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:14 a.m.
@ian done
KezzeraKezzera used
/administeroath
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-05-25 08:15 a.m.
@thejonathantank(edited)
Oath Selection
Which type of oath would you like to swear to?

Religious - Involves swearing to god that your testimony is, or will be, truthful.

Non-Religious - Solemnly affirms that your testimony is, or will be, truthful, under the pains and penalties of perjury.
Religious OathNon-Religious Oath
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:16 a.m.
Ig we'll wait for him to be online
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:17 a.m.
fine w me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:17 a.m.
Cold symptoms rn
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:18 a.m.
so im reading when I csn
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:18 a.m.
Get better sono
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:20 a.m.
Thank u
clerkFlowBotclerkFlow
@thejonathantank
clerkFlow
clerkFlow Bot2025-05-25 09:03 a.m.
@thejonathantank
Non-Religious Oath
Do you solemnly affirm that you will tell the truth, the whole truth, under the pains and penalties of perjury?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:03 a.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:03 a.m.
@Kezzera does it have to be bulk
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:03 a.m.
Pls
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:03 a.m.
We're all here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:07 a.m.
eh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:07 a.m.
fuck it whatever
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:07 a.m.
dont do it in bulk if you dont want to but it's gonna like
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:07 a.m.
drag on for days
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:07 a.m.
that's why i suggested bulnk
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:08 a.m.
Witness is here so am I
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:08 a.m.
Thanks anyway
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:08 a.m.
@thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:09 a.m.
Mr. Jonathan, you are the Plaintiff in this case—the person that is suing the officers—correct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:19 a.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:20 a.m.
The lawsuit arises out of an incident that happened on 8 April 2025, correct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:21 a.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:22 a.m.
I'm going to show you a video from our bundle now, labeled Exhibit A.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:23 a.m.
@thejonathantank Do you recognize this video? (Y/n)
ianian
@thejonathantank Do you recognize this video? (Y/n)
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:24 a.m.
y
thejonathantankthejonathantank
y
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:24 a.m.
Did you take this video?
ianian
Did you take this video?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:25 a.m.
y
thejonathantankthejonathantank
y
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:26 a.m.
Is that you in the pink car?
ianian
Is that you in the pink car?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:26 a.m.
y
thejonathantankthejonathantank
y
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:26 a.m.
Has this video, to your knowledge, besides being trimmed for relevancy, been edited or altered at all from the video you originally recorded?
ianian
Has this video, to your knowledge, besides being trimmed for relevancy, been edited or altered at all from the video you originally recorded?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:27 a.m.
no
thejonathantankthejonathantank
no
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:27 a.m.
Please watch the clip and describe what happens in it.
ianian
Please watch the clip and describe what happens in it.
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:39 a.m.
I was driving down the highway when an armored car merged into me from the other side of the highway, causing me to crash. And then the occupants of the armored car started shooting at me and my car after I crashed. They then got out and started using their batons to beat me.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:40 a.m.
@Kezzera We move to enter Exhibit A
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:01 a.m.
@Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:08 a.m.
@Kezzera can we enter exhb a please
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:17 a.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 12:10 p.m.
oh sorry gang
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 12:10 p.m.
yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 12:10 p.m.
@ian
ian
ian 2025-05-25 12:10 p.m.
Ok cool beans
ian
ian 2025-05-25 12:10 p.m.
@thejonathantank still here?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 03:29 p.m.
@thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-25 03:30 p.m.
Your car was severely damaged as a result of the shots, yes?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 03:30 p.m.
I'll rephrase—
ian
ian 2025-05-25 03:31 p.m.
Was your car damaged as a result of the shots?
ianian
Was your car damaged as a result of the shots?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 04:21 p.m.
yes
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 04:21 p.m.
very damaged
thejonathantankthejonathantank
very damaged
ian
ian 2025-05-25 04:21 p.m.
How much did the car cost to buy?
ianian
How much did the car cost to buy?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 04:23 p.m.
7150
thejonathantankthejonathantank
7150
ian
ian 2025-05-25 04:24 p.m.
Is that in Union of Columbia Dollars (UCD)?
ianian
Is that in Union of Columbia Dollars (UCD)?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 04:24 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:39 p.m.
@thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:40 p.m.
You were shot multiple times, along with your car, right?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 07:40 p.m.
And hit with batons
ianian
You were shot multiple times, along with your car, right?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:32 p.m.
yes
ianian
And hit with batons
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:32 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:32 p.m.
You must've lost a lot of health as well, right?
ianian
You must've lost a lot of health as well, right?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:34 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:34 p.m.
Was it stressful to be assaulted and bettered like this?
ianian
Was it stressful to be assaulted and bettered like this?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:35 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:35 p.m.
You must've been very emotionally distressed, then.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:35 p.m.
Correct?
ianian
You must've been very emotionally distressed, then.
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:36 p.m.
yes that is correct
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:36 p.m.
Alright
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:37 p.m.
I'll show you a new exhibit now
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes that is correct
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:38 p.m.
Specifically look at the second picture (you need to click the link)
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:38 p.m.
That would be exhibit C
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:38 p.m.
Please let me know once you've seen it
ianian
Please let me know once you've seen it
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:39 p.m.
seen
thejonathantankthejonathantank
seen
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:39 p.m.
That photo was taken from a frame from Exhibit A (the video), correct?
ianian
That photo was taken from a frame from Exhibit A (the video), correct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:39 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:40 p.m.
Do you think it was altered at all, besides being cropped for relevancy?
ianian
Do you think it was altered at all, besides being cropped for relevancy?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:40 p.m.
no
thejonathantankthejonathantank
no
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:41 p.m.
Would you agree it shows defendant FoxFragment and Combatrole?
ianian
Would you agree it shows defendant FoxFragment and Combatrole?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:43 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:43 p.m.
@Kezzera we move to enter exhb C
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
@thejonathantank I'll now show you exhibit E
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
Do you recognize this image ?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
Is this the arrest report of your false arrest after the incident?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:44 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:45 p.m.
Are you certain it was not modified, besides cropped for relevance?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:45 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:46 p.m.
The DOJ agreed to vacate that record because they found it to be false, correct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:46 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:46 p.m.
@Kezzera we move to enter exhb E into the record
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:46 p.m.
As a result of that arrest, you served jailtime, correct?
ianian
As a result of that arrest, you served jailtime, correct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:47 p.m.
yes
ianian
@Kezzera we move to enter exhb C
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:47 p.m.
let it be entered
ianian
@Kezzera we move to enter exhb E into the record
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 08:47 p.m.
let it ALSO be entered
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:47 p.m.
would you say all of the officers (in a way) "conspired" to arrest you falsely, and acted in concert?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:48 p.m.
Or was the arrest of a single officer
ianian
would you say all of the officers (in a way) "conspired" to arrest you falsely, and acted in concert?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:48 p.m.
yes
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:48 p.m.
they were working together
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:48 p.m.
How much jailtime did you have to serve as a result of the false arrest?
ianian
How much jailtime did you have to serve as a result of the false arrest?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:51 p.m.
I believe it was 10 minutes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
I believe it was 10 minutes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:52 p.m.
Did this false arrest that sentenced you to lose 10 minutes of your time cause you distress?
ianian
Did this false arrest that sentenced you to lose 10 minutes of your time cause you distress?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:53 p.m.
yes
ianian
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:55 p.m.
@thejonathantank Please look at the third image of this link, that would be exhibit D
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:55 p.m.
Let me know when done
ianian
Let me know when done
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:55 p.m.
done
thejonathantankthejonathantank
done
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:55 p.m.
Do you recognize that picture?
ianian
Do you recognize that picture?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:56 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:56 p.m.
Did you take it?
ianian
Did you take it?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:56 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:56 p.m.
What does it show?
ianian
What does it show?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:57 p.m.
the 3 officers taking me to booking
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
@Kezzera we move to enter D too
thejonathantankthejonathantank
the 3 officers taking me to booking
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
Lastly,
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
Do you recognize the first picture in that link?
ianian
Do you recognize the first picture in that link?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
(Exhb B)
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
Did you take it?
ianian
Did you take it?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:58 p.m.
What does it depict?
ianian
What does it depict?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 08:59 p.m.
the officers driving me into port
ianian
@Kezzera we move to enter D too
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:59 p.m.
@Kezzera withdrawn
thejonathantankthejonathantank
the officers driving me into port
ian
ian 2025-05-25 08:59 p.m.
The first picture in that link, specifically.
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:00 p.m.
Exhibit B
ianian
The first picture in that link, specifically.
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:00 p.m.
the 3 officers taking me to booking
thejonathantankthejonathantank
the 3 officers taking me to booking
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:01 p.m.
To your knowledge was it altered at all besides being cropped for relevance?
ianian
To your knowledge was it altered at all besides being cropped for relevance?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:01 p.m.
no
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:01 p.m.
@Kezzera we move to enter B
ianian
@Kezzera withdrawn
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:01 p.m.
- noted
ianian
@Kezzera we move to enter B
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
wasn't B entered earlier?
thejonathantankthejonathantank
no
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
As to the one I showed you earlier, the third picture, exhibit D, where you described the Defendants were taking you to booking
KezzeraKezzera
wasn't B entered earlier?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
We entered A
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
e
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
c
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
ah
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
Now B
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
okay, we'll enter it
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
Almost done w D
ianian
As to the one I showed you earlier, the third picture, exhibit D, where you described the Defendants were taking you to booking
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
@thejonathantank was it altered or modified at all besides being cropped for relevance?
ianian
@thejonathantank was it altered or modified at all besides being cropped for relevance?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:02 p.m.
no
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:03 p.m.
@Kezzera we move to enter D
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:03 p.m.
Thats all our exhibits
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:04 p.m.
@Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:12 p.m.
@Kezzera you were just heree
😭1
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:16 p.m.
Ok
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:16 p.m.
@thejonathantank
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:17 p.m.
How would you describe these officers' conduct?
ianian
How would you describe these officers' conduct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:18 p.m.
unprofessional, reckless, excessive force, no regard for public safety
thejonathantankthejonathantank
unprofessional, reckless, excessive force, no regard for public safety
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:19 p.m.
Do you agree they should be punished for this?
ianian
Do you agree they should be punished for this?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:19 p.m.
yes
thejonathantankthejonathantank
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:19 p.m.
As to your personal relationship with the situation, how were you harmed by these officers' outstandingly illegal conduct?
ianian
As to your personal relationship with the situation, how were you harmed by these officers' outstandingly illegal conduct?
thejonathantank
thejonathantank 2025-05-25 09:23 p.m.
I was harmed physically and it caused me emotional distress
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:23 p.m.
@Kezzera I yield, or however you'd say it
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:24 p.m.
@polyrabies your turn :🤗:
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:24 p.m.
@Kezzera note poly is online atm. Hearing ends in ~5? hours
Pending motion above to enter an exhibit
ianian
@Kezzera we move to enter D
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:29 p.m.
entered
KezzeraKezzera
entered
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
Pls dont grant extensions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
to be fair, i did say just throw it all in once and i'd enter it anyway
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
Poly is online
KezzeraKezzera
to be fair, i did say just throw it all in once and i'd enter it anyway
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
Mb ig
ianian
@Kezzera note poly is online atm. Hearing ends in ~5? hours Pending motion above to enter an exhibit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
if it's near the date then yes but i'd have to give equal amount of time for things he can do
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
so it may be extended/not
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
format in the same manner
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
ask live q
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
Please dont extend he is online
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:30 p.m.
And hes had time
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
If he had been timely with his other pleadings it'd be fine for you to consider extensions
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
But he's defaulted on literally everything
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
He defaulted on default
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
He does not deserve extensions
ianian
He defaulted on default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
a new saying
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:31 p.m.
Quote me on it
ianian
@Kezzera I yield, or however you'd say it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
well from this point this is the end of your case
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
or do you mean end of Qs
KezzeraKezzera
well from this point this is the end of your case
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
I can still rebut no?
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
Yea end of questions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
oh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
yes so poly will get cross opportunity unless none
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
Now he crosses, and we can rebut
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
ok, we'll wait
KezzeraKezzera
yes so poly will get cross opportunity unless none
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:32 p.m.
He needs to cross within 5 hours
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:33 p.m.
Ngl though Im going to sleep in half an hour
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 09:33 p.m.
take time as needed
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:33 p.m.
It'd be nice if you allowed me time to specifically rebut if needed tomorrow afternoon
ian
ian 2025-05-25 09:33 p.m.
Since we have been timely unlike them
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:20 p.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-25 10:42 p.m.
im open to it
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:42 p.m.
Ok ty
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:42 p.m.
@polyrabies
ian
ian 2025-05-25 10:43 p.m.
Cross
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-25 11:39 p.m.
I dont think i need to say to much here
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-25 11:42 p.m.
the video clearly shows ur client driving over 120mph dsyncing and making an ARMORED POLICE VEHICLE FLIP. while there were 3 occupants inside who were all law enforcement officers actively responding to an emergency. ur client also was boloed for murder and previously killed a papd officer not less then 10 minutes before the clip started. my clients simply did there job and took ur client into custody. them shooting at ur clients vehicle was legally warranted as he postde an active threat to life as he was driving 120 mph intentionally dsynced a ARMORED POLICE TANK WITH 3 OFFICERS INSIDE AND MADE THE TANK FLIP OVER MEANING THE OFFICERS COULD EASILY SUSTAIN SERIOUS INJURY and ur client was boloed for murder so he was armed and dangerous in the eyes of my clients
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-25 11:42 p.m.
if we make my clients pay money cause the plaintiff is a clear criminal who drives at 120mph makes armoured police vehicles flip and endangers everyones life while also murdering cops
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-25 11:42 p.m.
then justice isnt served
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-25 11:43 p.m.
thazts all i have to say
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 12:46 a.m.
there's evidence to support the bolo? you mention this now instead of providing earlier (save for the answer)?
ian
ian 2025-05-26 05:52 a.m.
@Kezzera we move to strike whatever the defense just said
ian
ian 2025-05-26 05:52 a.m.
They werent allowed a statement only to cross the witness
ian
ian 2025-05-26 05:53 a.m.
And there literally is no BOLO for your information
ian
ian 2025-05-26 05:54 a.m.
New lawyer tactic: default so you dont have to submit discovery and then even though you're not allowed to, make up that there's evidence that favors your side (even though it's not true, they will still believe you!)
ian
ian 2025-05-26 05:55 a.m.
If you want me to rebut the statement, like I should be, I will, but I'd much rather it be stricken
KezzeraKezzera
there's evidence to support the bolo? you mention this now instead of providing earlier (save for the answer)?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:21 a.m.
yes there was a bolo, and idk where else to mention it trial hasnt began
polyrabiespolyrabies
yes there was a bolo, and idk where else to mention it trial hasnt began
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:21 a.m.
Not your place
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:21 a.m.
Shut your mouth
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:21 a.m.
If you wanted to claim there was a BOLO, and there literally wasn't, you should've been diligent and made the deadlines to form a defense
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:22 a.m.
But you missed every single one
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:22 a.m.
Now you get to evaluate what I submitted and nothing else
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:22 a.m.
@Kezzera again I move to strike
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
i have nothing to cross
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
and i wont be crossing
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
There is a witness but ok
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
You werent allowed a statement though
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
Well the justice needs to be aware of that
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
its very important
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
@Kezzera please direct the witness to be unsworn
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
for when he makes a ruling
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:23 a.m.
Or something
polyrabiespolyrabies
its very important
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:24 a.m.
What youre claiming is called an affirmative defense
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:24 a.m.
And you gave up your right to give one when you missed every deadline
ian
ian 2025-05-26 06:25 a.m.
You're disputing liability where liability is already assumed by default. This is a hearing to determine damages
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:02 a.m.
I would have to agree that its no longer possible to present this information now
polyrabiespolyrabies
yes there was a bolo, and idk where else to mention it trial hasnt began
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:02 a.m.
Your clients are in default
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:02 a.m.
I've made this clear
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:03 a.m.
Several times
ianian
Shut your mouth
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:03 a.m.
Withdraw this comment counsellor
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:04 a.m.
Poly, you were made aware of default, and had an opportunity to submit material etc that can be used for me to consider in the assessment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:05 a.m.
Which could have potentially reduced the amount and liability potentially
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:05 a.m.
I received nothing and I cannot expect any now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:05 a.m.
It's beyond me why you didn't ask for any extensions in light of your schedule
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:06 a.m.
If there was one then May 21 was the absolute last time you could've brought it up
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:07 a.m.
Now I'm in a rather difficult position
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:07 a.m.
If you don't wish to cross, fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 11:08 a.m.
We'll end it here
ian
ian 2025-05-26 12:54 p.m.
@Kezzera with the hearing having concluded when could we expect a ruling
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-26 02:11 p.m.
soon
ian
ian 2025-05-27 01:21 p.m.
@Kezzera why is OFMC not assumed to..!
ian
ian 2025-05-27 01:21 p.m.
?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:46 p.m.
also you forgot to put in deprivation of rights
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:47 p.m.
other than that we're satisfied
ianian
also you forgot to put in deprivation of rights
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 04:53 p.m.
it's included - reread
ianian
@Kezzera why is OFMC not assumed to..!
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 04:53 p.m.
you guys aren't pursuing this anymore no?
KezzeraKezzera
you guys aren't pursuing this anymore no?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:54 p.m.
Yes, we are
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:54 p.m.
The fuss was about removing the SGO
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:54 p.m.
We stopped asking for injunctive relief, strictly
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:54 p.m.
But the non-equitable relief portion of OFMC remains (75k if i remember correctly)
ian
ian 2025-05-27 04:55 p.m.
Just that SGO doesnt defend that they only defend the equitable portion
ian
ian 2025-05-27 05:13 p.m.
Which is why we dismissed them
ian
ian 2025-05-27 07:07 p.m.
Also I think for the actual amount it's low
ian
ian 2025-05-27 07:08 p.m.
For reference over an intentional car crash we were awarded 500k
ianian
The fuss was about removing the SGO
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 07:54 p.m.
OHHH
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 07:54 p.m.
i completely misunderstood
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 07:59 p.m.
okay, this will be corrected
KezzeraKezzera
okay, this will be corrected
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:00 p.m.
I also dont see deprivation of rights there still
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:01 p.m.
and the damages are low
ianian
For reference over an intentional car crash we were awarded 500k
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:01 p.m.
this may be adjusted - 500k is the statutory maximum and i would caution usually on awarding the maximum amount
ianian
I also dont see deprivation of rights there still
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:02 p.m.
it should be there
KezzeraKezzera
this may be adjusted - 500k is the statutory maximum and i would caution usually on awarding the maximum amount
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:02 p.m.
I would argue it's absolutely needed here
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:02 p.m.
these are three officers absolutely bullying a random outstanding citizen for no reason
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:02 p.m.
shooting him, battering him, throwing him in prison
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:02 p.m.
they know better
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:03 p.m.
we're talking about ultra's negligence yes?
KezzeraKezzera
it should be there
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:03 p.m.
it is not there so i will add that - mustve gotten lost
KezzeraKezzera
it is not there so i will add that - mustve gotten lost
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:04 p.m.
its not
KezzeraKezzera
we're talking about ultra's negligence yes?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:04 p.m.
no about everything
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:04 p.m.
total from each defendant would be about 500k
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:04 p.m.
it's about the same as an intentional car crash
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:05 p.m.
somebody crashing into somebody is not comparable to crashing into them, shooting them, battering them, putting them in jail and humiliating them
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:05 p.m.
they should be upped
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:05 p.m.
i'm very lost
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:06 p.m.
i thought you were referencing the particular driver's conduct in reference to the 500k
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:06 p.m.
the intentional car crash is an example
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:06 p.m.
to show that what you're awarding from each defendant is about the same as a case of much lesser gravity
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:06 p.m.
im referencing every money damage you listed
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:06 p.m.
youll see most are like 500k
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:07 p.m.
all of them are low to you?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:07 p.m.
initially it all looks low to me
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:07 p.m.
let me give you some more in depth uh
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:07 p.m.
info
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:07 p.m.
if you're presenting further evidence you've ran out of time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
or any references to analogous cases
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
you could've asked me during the hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
no, no
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
i've presented all i wanted to present
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
right
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
im just using an example
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
so
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
here it says 500k from combatrole for battery
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:08 p.m.
statutory maximum is 680k
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:09 p.m.
that includes uh
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:09 p.m.
thats 3 counts
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:09 p.m.
torts
ianian
statutory maximum is 680k
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
690
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
well battery's stat max is 230
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
690 is statutory maximum
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
for 3
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
so 690
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
yea
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
i mean
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:10 p.m.
first count is
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
tort
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
the shooting
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
that should be max of 230
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
bc its absolutely unacceptable
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
second is also shooting
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:11 p.m.
first battery is for shooting at his car, second for shooting at him
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
both incredibly grave and so it should be the max of 460
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
the last assault is the baton thing
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
thats not as grave
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
we can leave it at like half the stat maximum
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
so 115k
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
i don't know if you read the draft paper
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
total 575
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:12 p.m.
but i've met your request in that particular case
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
are you sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
oh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
575
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
it says 500k from combat for battery
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
yes it'd be 575k
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
slightly higher
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
thats for the battery, moving on
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
assault
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
one count
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:13 p.m.
its when they hit him with baton
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:14 p.m.
this is fine as is
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:14 p.m.
well this is just preliminary
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:14 p.m.
yea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:14 p.m.
im going to re-evaluate anyway but i usually do not give nearly close to the maximum
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:14 p.m.
100k from combat for false imprisonment is also low in my opinion, it's a third (i believe) of the stat maximum
KezzeraKezzera
im going to re-evaluate anyway but i usually do not give nearly close to the maximum
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
this is hardly a usual scenario in my opinion
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
if you want i can send a pleading here with specific recommendations for damages
ianian
100k from combat for false imprisonment is also low in my opinion, it's a third (i believe) of the stat maximum
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
i won't disclose this evaluation here - see other channel
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
unofficial
KezzeraKezzera
i won't disclose this evaluation here - see other channel
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
Ok
ianian
if you want i can send a pleading here with specific recommendations for damages
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
no, i already have it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
unless it's vastly different
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
by hundreds of thousands
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:15 p.m.
yes it's demands for damages but it doesnt go in depth about why each
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
and we just ask for stat maximum and stuff every time
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
yea never expect the stat maximum unless its just egregious as fuck
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
i mean
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
youve seen the video right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
yes i get your point
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:16 p.m.
but i have to consider other factors
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
including what you've proven as to damages
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
hm, okay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
as to the false imprisonment stuff
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
i'm aware that the vacatur is not evidence i will be able to consider
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
mhm
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:17 p.m.
well
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
you cant consider what the DOJ's intention was
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
everything else is on the table
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
well it'll result in a different amount
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
for FI
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
most likely
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:18 p.m.
okay
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:19 p.m.
just as a guide so i dont have to submit everything
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:19 p.m.
id ask you to go as close as the stat max allows unless its a more minor aspect of what happened (i.e. taser, batons, tresspass to chattels). things like shooting at his car should be as close to the stat max as possible
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:19 p.m.
that's what i'd request
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:20 p.m.
okay, i will consider that thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:20 p.m.
check the other channel for new proposed amount
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:20 p.m.
Ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
as to the compensation such as medical expense
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
i really cannot meet that at all
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
yeah i saw
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
i wont ask you to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
you've given me almost nothing - only the clip - to work off of and i can attach a fair amount to the injury sustained
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:21 p.m.
okay, thanks
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
the reimbursement of the car (almost nothing) and the pain and suffering is all there is for compensatory
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
see witness 1's testimony for both
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
other than that punitive is gonna be a mess bc its a shitton of torts lol
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
yes this will be referred to
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
but i trust you can make it out properly
KezzeraKezzera
yes this will be referred to
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:22 p.m.
:👍:
ianian
but i trust you can make it out properly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:23 p.m.
sure - this would likely be the final amount
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:23 p.m.
and from there you can decide what to do with it
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:23 p.m.
mhnnmn
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:23 p.m.
okay, thanks check back in a bit
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:26 p.m.
@Kezzera oh by the way for attys fees
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:26 p.m.
you would need to send me the bill
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:26 p.m.
as of current
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:26 p.m.
does it have to be like pdf
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
or can i just tell you what it is
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
yes, i would need physical proof
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
otherwise it's bound to be challenged
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
i mean we dont really do that at my firm at the moment
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
im reworking our finances
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
finance guy left
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
he is in minnesotta i think
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
you don't bill people or you don't provide pdf copies?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
right
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:27 p.m.
no pdf copies
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
how do you normally display it
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
theres an engagement agreement?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
it specifies
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
has a clause for payment
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
i can send that and tell you how we applied it
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
you can swear me in if youd like
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
honestly attys fees is not a lot tho
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
you need to work out the numbers otherwise im changing my decision
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
that's honestly a bad thing to disclose, appreciate the honesty
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:28 p.m.
ill see what i can get you
KezzeraKezzera
that's honestly a bad thing to disclose, appreciate the honesty
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:29 p.m.
yea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:29 p.m.
ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:29 p.m.
get that worked out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:30 p.m.
im not evaluating any interest either
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:30 p.m.
so don't even bother asking
KezzeraKezzera
im not evaluating any interest either
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
whats this mean
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
dont worry about it
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
total attys fees should be $24,000.00
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
:)
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
i made the math
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:41 p.m.
its cheap af
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:42 p.m.
here it is your owner
ianian
total attys fees should be $24,000.00
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:45 p.m.
is this cheap @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:45 p.m.
like in ur opinion
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:45 p.m.
we also take a cut from court/settlement awardments
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:46 p.m.
24k is not cheap in my opinion
ianian
we also take a cut from court/settlement awardments
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
how much?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
30%
KezzeraKezzera
24k is not cheap in my opinion
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
isnt it
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
i have 100k ingame rn and ive never played clark in my life
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
i considered 40k was equal to about 1k of irl money(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
there's no true comparison between the two so i cant speak on that
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:47 p.m.
but 24k is a hell of a lot of cash
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
buys you a house somewhere
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
really
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
so like im rich and ive never even played the game
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
there's certainly more around
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
with like millions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
has the client paid for the service?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:48 p.m.
no its the end of the month in
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
3 days
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
or 4 depending on whether may has 31 or 30 days
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
hell of a risk
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
whats risky
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
people can just run away and you'll lose out
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:49 p.m.
happened sometime
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:50 p.m.
anyhow
ianian
30%
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:50 p.m.
rightok
KezzeraKezzera
people can just run away and you'll lose out
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:53 p.m.
oh right
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:53 p.m.
yea its happened
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:54 p.m.
most people at my firm dont care about the money tho to my knowledge
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:54 p.m.
i certainly dont
ian
ian 2025-05-27 08:54 p.m.
it feels good winning it and whatnot but we dont actually have a use for it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:56 p.m.
use it on a house or something idk
ianian
30%
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 08:58 p.m.
from total or a particular portion, like pain and suffering?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:04 p.m.
so i'm now quite inclined against the awarding of attorneys fees- even accounting for risk of non-recovery, you would realistically end up with far more than what your cost is
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:04 p.m.
@ian
ian
ian 2025-05-27 09:05 p.m.
we'll waive attys fees your honor
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:05 p.m.
okay, thanks
ian
ian 2025-05-27 09:22 p.m.
@Kezzera yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:23 p.m.
you're happy with this then?
ian
ian 2025-05-27 09:23 p.m.
Did you put in deprivation of rights tho
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:23 p.m.
yea
ian
ian 2025-05-27 09:23 p.m.
Then yes I love
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 09:23 p.m.
okay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 10:15 p.m.
it is now entered and filed - see the website
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-27 10:15 p.m.
@polyrabies @ian
KezzeraKezzera
it is now entered and filed - see the website
ian
ian 2025-05-28 05:57 a.m.
By when must he post
ian
ian 2025-05-28 05:57 a.m.
Pay
ian
ian 2025-05-28 12:53 p.m.
@Kezzera by when must they pay
ian
ian 2025-05-28 12:53 p.m.
@andris @Combatrole
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-28 01:58 p.m.
well he should attempt to start paying today, ideally
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-28 01:58 p.m.
defendants should have been made aware
ian
ian 2025-05-28 03:16 p.m.
@Kezzera can you authorize me to speak to ultra and combat directly, strictly about scheduling
ian
ian 2025-05-28 03:16 p.m.
bc polyrabies has been ignoring me in dms for ages
ian
ian 2025-05-28 03:16 p.m.
like since the case began
ian
ian 2025-05-28 04:47 p.m.
@Kezzera ?
ianian
like since the case began
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-28 05:22 p.m.
okay, sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 01:54 p.m.
please update me on this so i know what to do next
ian
ian 2025-05-29 02:32 p.m.
@Kezzera no response from defendants
ian
ian 2025-05-29 02:32 p.m.
or their counsel
ian
ian 2025-05-29 02:32 p.m.
fox could not be contacted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 02:42 p.m.
okay, it is available to you to request this court for a firm deadline on satisfying the judgment
KezzeraKezzera
okay, it is available to you to request this court for a firm deadline on satisfying the judgment
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:02 p.m.
yes sure
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:02 p.m.
could they be given 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:02 p.m.
unless they ask an extension
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:04 p.m.
would 48 hours to get in contact with us be what you want, or 48 hours to pay?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:04 p.m.
it's a lot of money so 2 days may seem extremely short to produce the money say, in the case they dont have that money ready after all
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:04 p.m.
@ian
KezzeraKezzera
would 48 hours to get in contact with us be what you want, or 48 hours to pay?
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:05 p.m.
what Im proposing is they pay within 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:05 p.m.
if they don't have the money already then at any time before the deadline they can say so and it'll be extended
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:05 p.m.
but since they're literally ignoring me for ages i think it's appropriate
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:05 p.m.
and no pay within those 48 hours would be indefinite contempt obvs
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:06 p.m.
alright, sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:06 p.m.
ill enter an order today
KezzeraKezzera
ill enter an order today
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:12 p.m.
you'll perma jail them for civil contempt if they don't make the deadline then?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:14 p.m.
i really hope not to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:14 p.m.
since i have never really went to that length
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:14 p.m.
but if i have to then yes
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:14 p.m.
we could make the deadline 72 hours if you want
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:14 p.m.
there's no rush
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:16 p.m.
but it's very obvious to me they won't pay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:19 p.m.
i'm far more comfortable with 72 hours
ian
ian 2025-05-29 05:19 p.m.
sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-29 05:20 p.m.
okay, expect today
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 01:37 a.m.
Clark County District Court online systems
KezzeraKezzera
i'm far more comfortable with 72 hours
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 03:21 a.m.
We are reqyestubg
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 03:21 a.m.
requesting
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 03:21 a.m.
until june 30th none of my clients have enough money to pay it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 03:21 a.m.
and are both busy
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 03:23 a.m.
infact, we are requesting until july 30th
polyrabiespolyrabies
until june 30th none of my clients have enough money to pay it
ian
ian 2025-05-30 09:08 a.m.
@Kezzera I think you should be wary of granting this
ian
ian 2025-05-30 09:09 a.m.
They've been ignoring their duty to pay until now
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 09:09 a.m.
No
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 09:09 a.m.
theres no money
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 09:09 a.m.
they dont have the money to pay
ian
ian 2025-05-30 09:09 a.m.
Im getting to that
ian
ian 2025-05-30 09:10 a.m.
If they don't have money, they could be given 1-2 weeks at the most to get the money. However a full month seems uncalled for and extraordinary considering they've shown zero interest in these proceedings and neglected their duty to pay
ian
ian 2025-05-30 09:10 a.m.
I think its been 3 days since the judgment was entered and they wouldnt pay
polyrabiespolyrabies
infact, we are requesting until july 30th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:03 p.m.
JULY?
polyrabiespolyrabies
they dont have the money to pay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:04 p.m.
Then back this up
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:04 p.m.
I need something to work with
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:04 p.m.
This whole time I've gotten absolutely nothing from the Defendants
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:04 p.m.
0
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:08 p.m.
I'm going to consider entering an order on interrogatories if I have to
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:09 p.m.
in fact, no, I'm going to enter that since this is just silly
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:09 p.m.
I want to know exactly how much they have
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:09 p.m.
whats going on
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:27 p.m.
@ian I will enter an order today allowing you to ask questions to the Defendants to locate their assets and how much cash they have on hand, all under oath
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:28 p.m.
oh great
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:28 p.m.
here or privately
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:28 p.m.
It will be on the website
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:28 p.m.
and on paper
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:28 p.m.
You will use that and show it to Defendants if they require evidence
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:29 p.m.
and if they dont answer what do we do
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:29 p.m.
they're still ghosting me same for defense counsel
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:33 p.m.
well counsel answered here, so
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:34 p.m.
and if they don't then it's further action
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:34 p.m.
i've set a deadline
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:34 p.m.
they now came back with proposals all for july 30th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:35 p.m.
so if they want july 30th, i need to know what's going on with them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:35 p.m.
otherwise i have to consider harsher options
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:35 p.m.
july 30th is incredible
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:35 p.m.
they havent even been cooperating with the court
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:35 p.m.
they should be given two weeks tops if they really dont have the money
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:36 p.m.
unless they're actually like dirt poor in which case one month is the most
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:36 p.m.
let's be real no one's going to want to do 16 hours of grind with cargo and logging for two weeks straight
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:36 p.m.
unless they want to, fine
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:36 p.m.
but i'm conscious of people having lives
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:36 p.m.
i reached out to them in advance before filing this suit
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
1-2 weeks prior i believe
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
seeking a settlement
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
you now tell me this?
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
they ignored me
KezzeraKezzera
you now tell me this?
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
well yeah they ignored me
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
im just saying it to put in perspective how they should've known this was going to happen
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
well it's helpful to know
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
if they didnt want to grind they should've taken the smart choice
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
and settled
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:37 p.m.
they didnt even answer
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
default was entered and they were notified if they still havent started grinding thats on them
KezzeraKezzera
well it's helpful to know
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
i didnt think to tell you because i didnt think it was really relevant up till now
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
most people ask for settlements before suing anyway
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
fair, look
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
we'll start on questions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:38 p.m.
if it doesn't produce any answers then we have next steps to consider
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:39 p.m.
it's also available to defendants to consider other legal actions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:39 p.m.
which i will not name since it should be known by any attorney
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:39 p.m.
in which they can address the judgment
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:39 p.m.
im not too worried
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:39 p.m.
poly has said two sentences since this case started
ian
ian 2025-05-30 12:46 p.m.
@Kezzera all good here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 12:50 p.m.
ok
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 06:46 p.m.
All I have to say is
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 06:46 p.m.
My clients don’t have the money
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 06:46 p.m.
To pay
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 06:47 p.m.
And it will take them a month to acquire it
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-05-30 06:47 p.m.
So this is our notice to the court that my clients cannot pay until July 30th
polyrabiespolyrabies
So this is our notice to the court that my clients cannot pay until July 30th
ian
ian 2025-05-30 06:52 p.m.
not how it works
ian
ian 2025-05-30 06:52 p.m.
at all
ian
ian 2025-05-30 06:52 p.m.
best attorney in clark
polyrabiespolyrabies
So this is our notice to the court that my clients cannot pay until July 30th
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 07:04 p.m.
I cannot take your word for it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 07:44 p.m.
Order entered
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-30 07:44 p.m.
@polyrabies cc
ian
ian 2025-05-31 12:28 p.m.
@Kezzera will I ask the questions during a hearing
ian
ian 2025-05-31 12:28 p.m.
or in bulk
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-31 03:00 p.m.
you send in written questions...
KezzeraKezzera
you send in written questions...
ian
ian 2025-05-31 03:02 p.m.
So in bulk
ian
ian 2025-05-31 03:02 p.m.
Not like a deposition
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-05-31 03:02 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-05-31 03:19 p.m.
@Kezzera would this be okay with you judge
ian
ian 2025-05-31 03:19 p.m.
1. How much money are you personally in possession of?
2. What property are you in possession of?
3. What is the gross value of that combined property?
4. Have you entered into an agreement, such as with a bank, where that entity escrows any property or money belonging to you?
5. What, or how much, property or money belonging to you is escrowed by a separate entity?
6. If applicable, what is the gross value of that escrowed property?
7. Have you entered into any other type of agreement with any entity whatsoever where you transfer possession of money or property to that entity and that money or property can later be retrieved by any mean—such as investing in a company, and then it being possible to sell its shares?
8. What, or how much, property or money that is possible to be retrieved in this way do you have knowledge about?
9. If applicable, what is the gross value of that property that is possible to be retrieved?
✅1
ian
ian 2025-05-31 07:41 p.m.
@Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:33 p.m.
@ian I reacted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:34 p.m.
You should tag them so they know what's up
KezzeraKezzera
You should tag them so they know what's up
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:35 p.m.
Can you tag them
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:35 p.m.
Im not in a position to order them to do something as opposing counsel
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:35 p.m.
you should tell them to answer to those questions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
Well they should know but ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
I don't mind
KezzeraKezzera
Well they should know but ok
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
their lawyer is absent
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
Completely?
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
like absent parents
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
@polyrabies
KezzeraKezzera
Completely?
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
to me it appears so
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:37 p.m.
I mean he's been ghosting me and failed to act in the evidentiary hearing
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:38 p.m.
@polyrabies would you respond by tomorrow 5pm eastern, need to know you're here still
ianian
1. How much money are you personally in possession of? 2. What property are you in possession of? 3. What is the gross value of that combined property? 4. Have you entered into an ...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:38 p.m.
@Combatrole @andris @foxfragment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:41 p.m.
A dm to the plaintiff's attorney in bullets or a message here in this channel, individually of each defendant
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:42 p.m.
And either written on paper or provided in discord messages will be fine(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:42 p.m.
If you want to attach pictures here but can't ask for permission by tagging me directly
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:43 p.m.
@Kezzera it has to be under oath, too
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:43 p.m.
they have to sign under penalty of perjury
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:43 p.m.
yes, thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:43 p.m.
Under oath
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-02 02:44 p.m.
this gives me an idea..
KezzeraKezzera
this gives me an idea..
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
Also
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
This shouldnt apply to foxfragment
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
Can you order he pay
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
Because he is not represented by polyrabies and hasnt himself said he needs time to pay
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
so reasonably since he is in default you should just order he pay now
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
and Ill let you know when he fails to
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:46 p.m.
so you can sanction him however you want
ian
ian 2025-06-02 02:47 p.m.
until he does (civil contempt would be best)
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-03 08:16 a.m.
I am here
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-03 08:35 a.m.
Hey motion to withdraw as counsel
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-03 08:35 a.m.
client is switching attorneys
polyrabiespolyrabies
Hey motion to withdraw as counsel
ian
ian 2025-06-03 12:49 p.m.
I mean the case is already over
ian
ian 2025-06-03 12:49 p.m.
Oh actually interrogatories
ian
ian 2025-06-03 12:50 p.m.
Who's the new attorney?
polyrabiespolyrabies
client is switching attorneys
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 03:48 p.m.
ok, is it for both or only one of them?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 04:22 p.m.
i'll need to know so i know what to exactly do with you
ianian
Can you order he pay
ian
ian 2025-06-03 04:23 p.m.
@Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-03 04:23 p.m.
Separately to the other defendants
KezzeraKezzera
ok, is it for both or only one of them?
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-03 07:30 p.m.
Both.
polyrabiespolyrabies
Both.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 08:04 p.m.
okay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 08:04 p.m.
i'll allow you to withdraw
ian
ian 2025-06-03 08:05 p.m.
Can you direct the defendants to answer the interrogatories, it would seem they're avoiding it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 08:14 p.m.
@polyrabies you are now withdrawn from this matter - thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 08:15 p.m.
@isaac you have been added - you appear for defendant combatrole, yes?
KezzeraKezzera
@isaac you have been added - you appear for defendant combatrole, yes?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 08:47 p.m.
Hello Your Honor I am here appearing in regards to Defendant Combatrole and UltraInstinctShxggy
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 08:48 p.m.
We intend on filing a motion to set aside default soon, how long will you give us to submit
ian
ian 2025-06-03 08:48 p.m.
Your honor it's kind of late for that
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 08:49 p.m.
And that is the reason, we are motioning to set aside default for excusable neglect in terms of the previous attorney my client was represented by
ian
ian 2025-06-03 08:50 p.m.
I think that's merely statutory law from other states and isn't found in our precedents or statutes/rules
ian
ian 2025-06-03 08:50 p.m.
If you'd want to submit that we'll submit a response in opposition duly
ian
ian 2025-06-03 08:50 p.m.
However I do ask the interrogatories not be excused because there isn't a reason for that and we should continue with them
ianian
I think that's merely statutory law from other states and isn't found in our precedents or statutes/rules
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 08:56 p.m.
"The court may set aside a default, and if a final judgment consequent thereon has been entered, the court may set it aside in accordance with rule 1.540(b)." See Mayfl. R. Civ. P. 37(d)
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 08:56 p.m.
Rule 1.540(b) provides relief from judgements for reasons including mistake, inadvertence, or excusable neglect.
ian
ian 2025-06-03 09:22 p.m.
Given how long it's been since default was granted the court should be wary of granting your request
ian
ian 2025-06-03 09:23 p.m.
You'd not only be setting aside default but its evidentiary hearing, and interrogatories as well
ian
ian 2025-06-03 09:23 p.m.
Arguably the standard of review should be higher
isaacisaac
Hello Your Honor I am here appearing in regards to Defendant Combatrole and UltraInstinctShxggy
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 10:34 p.m.
i need one for ultra then, you only have one for combatrole
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 10:35 p.m.
this will not prevent interrogatories from continuing - these should be answered in a timely manner
KezzeraKezzera
i need one for ultra then, you only have one for combatrole
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 10:41 p.m.
Ok do you want a written NOA for that as well
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-03 10:42 p.m.
yes
isaac
isaac 2025-06-03 10:44 p.m.
Ok filed
isaacisaac
Ok filed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:01 p.m.
these are processed, go forth
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:02 p.m.
those questions need to be answered
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:02 p.m.
@Kezzera can you also start seeing about fox's payment
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:03 p.m.
an order to pay or say something to the court, instead, for example
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:03 p.m.
or civil contempt
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:03 p.m.
if fox fails to answer anything, then we'll consider that option
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
i will now direct that these questions be answered by June 6, 2025 11:59pm E.T.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
@isaac @ian
KezzeraKezzera
if fox fails to answer anything, then we'll consider that option
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
but the interrogatories are being given as a courtesy to mr combat and ultra
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
because their attorney has said they cant pay
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
fox hasn't done so
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:04 p.m.
oh did i not extend it to fox
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
ah shite
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
i'm not sure
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
but either way he doesnt need interrogatories
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
he didnt ask for them
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
okay, you're right
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
i'll enter orders by june 6, do it in one package
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 08:05 p.m.
the entries are getting a bit confusing so
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:06 p.m.
ok
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:22 p.m.
Ok
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:22 p.m.
How long do we have to file the motion to set aside default @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
@Kezzera please 24 hrs
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
? We'd like some more time
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
you said you wanted to do this 24 hours ago
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
No?
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
so in total you got 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
plus some more time
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
I'm not sure where your coming from, I never mentioned a time for when I want to submit it.
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
I simply asked the judge how long we have
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:23 p.m.
No but you mentioned you wanted to submit the motion
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
and you did that 24 hours ago
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
Proving excusable neglect is not an easy task
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
So
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
With 24 more hours
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
that's a total of 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
which is very reasonable for a simple motion, no?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
I mentioned my intent to file the motion
isaacisaac
Proving excusable neglect is not an easy task
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
Will it take you longer
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
Just because it's difficult
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:24 p.m.
So much so you need an extension from the 48 hours?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
Where was 48 hours decided
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
Never
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
Im saying 48 hours is reasonable
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
Ok great
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
That's the standard you'd get for motions
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
It's what people get for responses
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
I will await Alberts response for my deadline
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
If not 48 hours, how much would you say is reasonable
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:25 p.m.
For a simple motion
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:26 p.m.
I am new counsel
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:26 p.m.
I do not know what Poly did
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:26 p.m.
I am researching it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
In other words you're not sure as to whether his conduct meant excusable neglect
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
In which case you should not be asking for time at all
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
Let me rephrase, I am sure he did excusable neglect
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
So why do you need an extension articulating that?
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
If you're sure
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:28 p.m.
To prove it?
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
Are you suggesting you need time for facts to come to light to be able to prove it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
Or do you mean you will need a lot of time to actually write the complaint
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
I need to take my facts and put them on a sheet of paper
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
right, writing a motion
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:29 p.m.
the standard for that is 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:30 p.m.
What I'm saying is you're not showing any cause as to why the standard should be stretched
ianian
the standard for that is 48 hours
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
Can you cite me the rule which states the standard time for filing a motion is 48 hours
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
Like I said that's just how the rules are structured
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
Can you cite the rule
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
Responses are allowed 48 hours after a motion is filed
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:31 p.m.
sure
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:32 p.m.
Great!
ianian
Responses are allowed 48 hours after a motion is filed
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:32 p.m.
typically in pre trial or such
ian
ian 2025-06-04 08:43 p.m.
@isaac I cant find it now
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 08:43 p.m.
I believe that is because it never existed
ianian
the standard for that is 48 hours
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:06 p.m.
this is for pre-trial
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:06 p.m.
we're not there anymore
isaacisaac
How long do we have to file the motion to set aside default @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:06 p.m.
how much time do you need..?
KezzeraKezzera
this is for pre-trial
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
I believe generally parties are given 48 hours for motions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
you still have interrogatories to complete, so
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
Either way I'd argue more than that isn't needed
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
Unless he actually has a reason
ianian
I believe generally parties are given 48 hours for motions
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
we don't have anything post-decision from what i recall
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:07 p.m.
so it's kind of up to us what a reasonable amount of time would be
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:08 p.m.
here's what might help then:
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:08 p.m.
I'll leave it up to you, my recommendation is on the record
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:09 p.m.
Hello Your Honor
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:10 p.m.
I do not intend to file a motion to set aside the default, instead, I plan on filing a motion to partially vacate the judgement pursuant to rule 39(b)(4)
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:10 p.m.
I will file it tomorrow
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:13 p.m.
You're going to argue the judgment is void..?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:13 p.m.
YEs
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:13 p.m.
It will be submittd tomorrow
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:13 p.m.
Is that alright @Kezzera Sir
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:13 p.m.
Unfortunately you can't
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
You're barred from making claims relating to rule 39 as more than five days have passed since the judgment
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
Mhm
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
And due to the nature of the judgment being void
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
See R. Civ. P. 39, again
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
I ask the court to allow more time
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
voidness is a fundamental defect(edited)
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
I object
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
Our rules don't allow for that
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
You don't present reasonable cause
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:14 p.m.
I am asking the judge to allow it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:15 p.m.
You don't present reasonable cause for the judge to grant you leave
isaacisaac
And due to the nature of the judgment being void
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:15 p.m.
What does this mean
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
The basis of the motion is to correct erroneous judgement amounts that exceeds statutory limits and was entered without proper consideration of damages caps
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
Okay but that's not a cause
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
That's just the motion
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
This is not about 'reasoanble cause'
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
this is relief from an improper judgement
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
But the motion can't be filed if it's been more than five days
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
pursuant to rule 39
isaacisaac
this is relief from an improper judgement
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
Yes, which you had 5 days to file at most and didn't
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
Meaning you're barred from it now
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
I was made aware 2 days ago
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:16 p.m.
Unless you have a reason to be granted an extension
isaacisaac
I was made aware 2 days ago
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:17 p.m.
Doesn't matter for the purposes of rule 39
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:17 p.m.
the rule also provides that the court may relieve a party from judgment
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:17 p.m.
for other reasons
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:17 p.m.
such as the judgement being void or for fraud upon the court
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:18 p.m.
Yes. It does. But a motion to compel that relief should come as late as five days after the judgment
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:18 p.m.
It's been more than five days and that motion is barred
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:18 p.m.
the rule does not limit the courts inherent power
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:18 p.m.
to grant relief
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:18 p.m.
No, it limits yours to ask for it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
You're barred from making a motion under rule 39 it's really that simple
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
again it does not bar the courts authority to grant relief on grounds like the judgement being void
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
I never said it bars the court from anything
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
So why will the court not consider it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
I said it bars you, the defendant, from MOVING IT
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
the court is allowed to
isaacisaac
So why will the court not consider it
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
because you can't ask it to
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:19 p.m.
You're barred from asking it to
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:20 p.m.
And by consequence, the court should not consider such a request, in writing or not
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:21 p.m.
i was only retained as counsel for the defendants two days ago
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:21 p.m.
I'm going to sleep now @Kezzera please allow me time to respond before ruling if defense counsel claims anything else
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:21 p.m.
i was not able to file any motion within the five-day period following the entry of judgement
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:21 p.m.
i respectfully ask that this constitutes good cause to consider the motion despite the time limit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:28 p.m.
@isaac @ian

We'll set a motion for set aside or the vacate to be due before June 6, 2025 11:59pm E.T.

If Defendants need more time, motion to extend time can be considered.

Interoggatories still need to be answered by June 6, 2025 11:59pm E.T.
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:29 p.m.
Thanks
isaac
isaac 2025-06-04 11:29 p.m.
Great thanks it will be submitted tomrorow
✅1
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-04 11:29 p.m.
please stop with the back and forths now
ian
ian 2025-06-04 11:30 p.m.
Sorry
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 03:35 p.m.
DEFENSE MOTION TO PARTIALLY VACATE JUDGMENT
CC: @Kezzera @ian
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 03:47 p.m.
RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES
CC: @ian @Kezzera

Defendant Combatrole
1. 270k~
2. N/A
3. N/A
4. N/A
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. N/A
8. N/A
9. N/A

Defendant UltraInstinctShxggy
1. ~25k
2. none
3. N/A
4. no
5. N/A
6. N/A
7. no
8. N/A
9. N/A

I hereby certify, under penalty of perjury, that the foregoing answers were provided by the Defendants and are true and correct to the best of their knowledge, information, and belief.
/s/ Filturaes
isaacisaac
RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES CC: @ian @Kezzera Defendant Combatrole 1. 270k~ 2. N/A 3. N/A 4. N/A 5. N/A 6. N/A 7. N/A 8. N/A 9. N/A *Defenda...
ian
ian 2025-06-05 03:57 p.m.
Why are you signing an affidavit based on someone else's belief
ian
ian 2025-06-05 03:57 p.m.
in that case they should be signing
ian
ian 2025-06-05 03:57 p.m.
or that's just hearsay
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:16 p.m.
PLAINTIFF RESPONSE TO DEFENSE'S MOTION TO PARTIALLY VACATE DEFAULT JUDGMENT
Cc @Kezzera @isaac
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:17 p.m.
we would need the affidavit signed by the affiants themselves in this case @isaac
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:17 p.m.
Ok
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:17 p.m.
I will have them reply to the message
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:17 p.m.
unless the client has gone insane or cannot make their own statement for reasons of incapacity, etc. and they have a representative
isaacisaac
I will have them reply to the message
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:18 p.m.
insufficient, a written response on the record will be sufficient
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:18 p.m.
I plan on entering the questions and responding affidavits together
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
Ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
if you want a simple template I can make one
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
do you want one
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
@isaac
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
Nope
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
ok
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
judge can you please enter default for foxfragment
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:19 p.m.
like set a date for him to pay
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
received both vacate motion and response to it
ianian
judge can you please enter default for foxfragment
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
I said June 6
KezzeraKezzera
I said June 6
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
right but
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
that's for interrogatories
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
why is he getting interrogatories
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
if he never expressed he would have difficulty paying
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:20 p.m.
order would be appropriate now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:22 p.m.
I said I was going to enter that order along with everything else on June 6
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:22 p.m.
Ok, we will wait
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 04:22 p.m.
Okay thank you
ianian
PLAINTIFF RESPONSE TO DEFENSE'S MOTION TO PARTIALLY VACATE DEFAULT JUDGMENT Cc @Kezzera @isaac
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 04:39 p.m.
@Kezzera Will you allow us to reply
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Will you allow us to reply
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:43 p.m.
we object
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:43 p.m.
this is already a motion filed out of the allowed time and only overturned by leave of court
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:44 p.m.
there is no need for another pleading
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:44 p.m.
they've stated their case, and so have we—now the court decides, as with any motion
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:44 p.m.
If he gets another response we assert we should as well and then we'll never end submitting pleadings
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:44 p.m.
It's why each party submits one
ian
ian 2025-06-05 04:45 p.m.
If he has something else to say unless the circumstances have somehow changed between now and the 15 minutes ago that he filed his motion then he should've said it in his original motion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
i'm weary of this becoming a ping-pong situation
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
which is not desirable
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Will you allow us to reply
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
why?
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
Yes that's what I fear too
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
He should've exhausted his arguments in one motion
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
well i haven't read them yet
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
Otherwise it's also just wasting my time for no reason
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:00 p.m.
so i need to consider like
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:01 p.m.
what the arguments are and whether any new things were raised
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:01 p.m.
Not rlly
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:02 p.m.
you raised the argument that the damages are stacked and therefore is multipled by the amount of times you re-allege that tort
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
that is simply incorrect, i wish to reply to prove why that is incorrect
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
If it is incorrect the court will deem it so
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
:😁:
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
Thats how it works
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
and in support of it being incorrect, i wish to file a reply
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
For motions you dont go ping pong pong ping
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
to support the argument
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
that it is incorrect
isaacisaac
and in support of it being incorrect, i wish to file a reply
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
Not how it is done for motions
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
It's a simple motion not trial
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:03 p.m.
??
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:04 p.m.
If it's so important that this specific fact is gotten right you should've foreseen that we would make that argument and include it in your original motion
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:04 p.m.
that's reasonable but it doesnt bar me from replying
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:07 p.m.
You need a reason for the court to grant you leave
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:08 p.m.
you raised an argument that i need to address
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:09 p.m.
Actually you raised an argument and I attacked it so now the court will decide
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:09 p.m.
Movants don't have the right to rebut an allegation
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
Respondents to a motion do, though
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
It's 1. movant: give me this 2. Respondent: dont give him that
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
movants do?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
what do you mean
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
movant is the party who initally brought the motion
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
Yes
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
yes
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:10 p.m.
the respondents opposition
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:11 p.m.
Uh huh
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:11 p.m.
may raise new facts ora rguments that werent in the original motion
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:11 p.m.
therefore to ensure fairness the movant is allowed to file a reply
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:11 p.m.
Under what
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:11 p.m.
To my knowledge movants aren't entitled to rebut in any case
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:12 p.m.
I've certainly never seen it done
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:12 p.m.
Defendants' Response to Plaintiff's Response to Defendants' Motion to Partially Vacate Default Judgment?
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:12 p.m.
Like come on
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:13 p.m.
Ordinarily too we'd be allowed a response to that as well
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:13 p.m.
Plaintiff's Response to Defendants' Response to Plaintiff's Response to Defendants' Motion to Partially Vacate Default Judgment?
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:15 p.m.
Just seems completely fabricated, the idea of having a right to respond to a response
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:15 p.m.
@Kezzera also this is literally just a motion with two single points (two sentences) of actual arguments
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:16 p.m.
:😋:
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:16 p.m.
Clearly they did not put in effort and should not be entitled to file a response now
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:16 p.m.
? Much effort was put in
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:16 p.m.
Who are you to judge MY effort
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:17 p.m.
Next time I move the court to do something, I'll only explain my reasoning with two words of argumentative content—after all, I can always just submit a response to the opposing party's response where I actually detail my arguments!
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:17 p.m.
Just no
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:17 p.m.
That's not how it's done
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:17 p.m.
Ok Please stop with the disrespect
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:18 p.m.
We are considering moving for civil contempt
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:18 p.m.
Pls stop being rude sir
isaacisaac
Who are you to judge MY effort
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:18 p.m.
I am trying to illustrate that you failed to exhaust your arguments, not that you didn't put effort in making them.
isaacisaac
We are considering moving for civil contempt
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:18 p.m.
You mean criminal contempt ?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:19 p.m.
? I'm sorry no it would be civil contempt
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:19 p.m.
This is a civil case after all
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:19 p.m.
Are u sure abt that
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:19 p.m.
Course
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:22 p.m.
@Kezzera Your honor when can we expect on the motion to partially vacate judgement
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:22 p.m.
Sorry
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:22 p.m.
EXpect a ruling
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Your honor when can we expect on the motion to partially vacate judgement
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:22 p.m.
So you dont want to submit a response then?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
If the court allows it I Will
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
Ok
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
I still object
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
But I think he said he'd rule by tomorrow on everything
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
If I'm not disbarred by then
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:23 p.m.
not to your motions..? everything else yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
fym disbarred??
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Aw man
KezzeraKezzera
fym disbarred??
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Yeah big bad thing happened
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Uh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
dont even talk about it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
in open court
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
I don't agree with it and I will fight it but I'm pretty sure I will be suspended soon
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
it's not my business
KezzeraKezzera
dont even talk about it
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
I'm not going to justify it, just letting you know
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Just in case
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Your Honor is he not required to disclose this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:24 p.m.
Yea Im disclosing it
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
I was made aware like an hour ago
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
Ok great
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
is he required to?
isaacisaac
Your Honor is he not required to disclose this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
No Im not actualy
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
if it's related to the case yes
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
Actually*
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
if not, no
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
But im still disclosing it
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
Ok i was under the asumption it was
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
well thanks for the heads up - best of luck in fighting it or what you will do in it
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
Lowk it's crazy tho
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
i'll just remind counsel of whats up:
KezzeraKezzera
well thanks for the heads up - best of luck in fighting it or what you will do in it
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:25 p.m.
Yeah I'll fight it I'm pretty sure
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
Haven't even seen anything I was just told by one of the justices
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
That I should expect that
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
@Kezzera Will the court allow a verbal reply to the response Plaintiff submitted
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
But Im pretty sure Ill fight it
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Will the court allow a verbal reply to the response Plaintiff submitted
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
Same objection as before here
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
And if he's allowed another response we'll expect reciprocation
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:26 p.m.
Ping, pong
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
And if that happens we will be rpelying
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
- June 6, 2025 11:59pm ET is the deadline for the motions that defense counsel wanted to submit, and plaintiff counsel filed; it was not the deadline for the ruling but i intend to resolve this soon
- same date, for foxfragment pay/confinement order; interrogatories order (defense counsel should adhere to the written statement direction i gave earlier)
isaacisaac
And if that happens we will be rpelying
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
Pong, ping
KezzeraKezzera
- June 6, 2025 11:59pm ET is the deadline for the motions that defense counsel wanted to submit, and plaintiff counsel filed; it was not the deadline for the ruling but i intend to...
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
Thumbs up emoji reaction
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Will the court allow a verbal reply to the response Plaintiff submitted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
ill think about it
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
when i get to reading it, ill just respond directly
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
Your Honor I am waiting on one of the Defendants to come online
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
to sign the affidavit
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
Please forgive the disruption
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:27 p.m.
note:
- Defense Request Verbal Response to Plaintiff's Response to MTV
- Plaintiff objection, Reciprocate Dmnd if DR granted
(edited)
isaacisaac
to sign the affidavit
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 09:28 p.m.
take your time you still have a day
KezzeraKezzera
note: - Defense Request Verbal Response to Plaintiff's Response to MTV - Plaintiff objection, Reciprocate Dmnd if DR granted(edited)
ian
ian 2025-06-05 09:28 p.m.
and Plaintiff objects and demands reciprocation if granted
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:03 p.m.
DEFENSE RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES W/ AFFIDAVIT
CC: @ian @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:04 p.m.
W
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:04 p.m.
So let's do this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:04 p.m.
Combatrole gets 4 weeks, ultra gets 6
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:04 p.m.
Yes?
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:05 p.m.
Actually
isaacisaac
DEFENSE RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES W/ AFFIDAVIT CC: @ian @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:05 p.m.
Do they not own any property at all
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:05 p.m.
Not a car
ianian
Do they not own any property at all
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:07 p.m.
According to the Interr order. my clients were asked to disclose "real assets"
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:07 p.m.
cars are not considered real assets
ianian
1. How much money are you personally in possession of? 2. What property are you in possession of? 3. What is the gross value of that combined property? 4. Have you entered into an ...
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:07 p.m.
See this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
"What property are you in possession of"
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
@isaac
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
yes
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
that is out of the scope of the order
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
the order says we are required to disclose
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
No its not ..
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
REAL assets
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
property, land, structures, etc
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
1 second
isaacisaac
property, land, structures, etc
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:08 p.m.
Yes I know what real property is thanks
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:09 p.m.
We wouldnt be having this conversation
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:09 p.m.
(Fake property :😱:)
isaacisaac
the order says we are required to disclose
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:10 p.m.
are chattels not financial property
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:10 p.m.
I'd argue they are
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:10 p.m.
@Kezzera can you weigh in with your intent
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:10 p.m.
Also I think this is pointless
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:10 p.m.
The order gave us the right to ask questions that the court would approve
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
Then those questions are directed to you
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
You dont get to only partially answer, you have to answer fully because the court cleared the questions
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
Where did the court clear the questions
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
Guy's fr gonna have me searching the channel
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
Sheesh
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:11 p.m.
1s
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
Also cars are literally unable to be sold
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
So i don't know why you want to know what vehicles my clients possess
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
isaacisaac
So i don't know why you want to know what vehicles my clients possess
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
You have to disclose it regardless
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
And any other chattels
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:12 p.m.
Any property of any kind
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
why would we have to disclose chattels
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
It's a type of property
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
its not financial property
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
ok
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
great
isaacisaac
its not financial property
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
It was cleared by the court and accepted
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
@Kezzera Could the Court weigh in on this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
Unless you disagree with their ruling and want to move you need to answer the questions
isaacisaac
@Kezzera Could the Court weigh in on this
ian
ian 2025-06-05 10:13 p.m.
Please
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:01 p.m.
...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:02 p.m.
cars are considered real assets
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:03 p.m.
Your Honor I don't believe that is trust
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:03 p.m.
true
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:04 p.m.
you can't sell a car, and it doesn't have any intrinsic value?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:04 p.m.
what?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:05 p.m.
cars have intrinsic value
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:05 p.m.
it's a tangible asset
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:05 p.m.
then what are you talking about?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:06 p.m.
i'm saying cars are not real property
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:06 p.m.
are you confusing it with real estate
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:07 p.m.
because that's not what i meant
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:07 p.m.
Real estate is a real asset
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:07 p.m.
Which is what you ordered us to provide in the interr order
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
yes, real assets such as real estate
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
yes.
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
not vehicles though
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
as vehicle are tangible assets not real assets
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
i'm gonna need to get my liver damaged because of you
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
??
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
your honor i don't see the confusion here
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:08 p.m.
you asked us to provide real assets, we did
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:10 p.m.
are you reading that as me saying "tell me what real assets you own, just the houses" or "tell me what real assets you own, like a house for example"?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:10 p.m.
you ordered us to provide real assets we own
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:10 p.m.
real assets can be many things
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
okay, so is it the case then that they don't own a car which is a real asset??
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
well a car isnt a real asset
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
excluding leo cars, those cannot be sold
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
how is it not?
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
their tangible personal proprty
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:11 p.m.
"Any movable thing or intangible item of value that is capable of being owned by a person and not recognized as real property ." See Legal Information Institute, Personal Property, Cornell Law School,.
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:12 p.m.
it's tangible as you can touch it.
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:12 p.m.
personal because it isnt attached to land
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:12 p.m.
and its an asset because it can be sold and has market value
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:20 p.m.
yeah, you're right
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:20 p.m.
embarrassing on my part
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:20 p.m.
i got it confused in a different context
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:21 p.m.
Its ok
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:21 p.m.
in that case, it won't be in the scope of the order
isaac
isaac 2025-06-05 11:21 p.m.
Great thank you
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:21 p.m.
it can change later but this will be sufficient for now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-05 11:22 p.m.
(if anything listed cannot be used in enforcement then itwill be excluded)
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:06 a.m.
@Kezzera your honor
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:06 a.m.
The order clearly intends for all assets to be named
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:06 a.m.
Real or not
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:06 a.m.
Also
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:07 a.m.
The order provides we give interrogatories, you approve, they answer
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:08 a.m.
It doesn't say we give interrogatories, you approve, and they choose what to answer based on their interpretation of it
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:08 a.m.
They should answer the questions or how they interpret the questions that's it
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:08 a.m.
You already approved them
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 06:21 a.m.
We answered the questions how we were directed to pursuant to the order
isaacisaac
We answered the questions how we were directed to pursuant to the order
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:32 a.m.
"ORDERED that Plaintiff's counsel ... be authorized to direct questions to Defendants and/or Defense counsel, which must be answered under oath, for the purpose of locating all assets owned by each Defendant ..."
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:32 a.m.
You were directed to answer what we ask
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:32 a.m.
Don't make stuff up
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:33 a.m.
@Kezzera also important to note the order says "including but not limited to: real assets such as real estate, [...]" (emphasis)
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:34 a.m.
The defense virtually did whatever he wanted in answering the interrogatories and disregarded the order and the questions
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-06 06:36 a.m.
hEY
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-06 06:37 a.m.
can my access here be removed?
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:37 a.m.
Wtf
ian
ian 2025-06-06 06:37 a.m.
Yes please
polyrabies
polyrabies 2025-06-06 06:37 a.m.
incase i accidently send something
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:44 a.m.
It should've been removed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:50 a.m.
@ian I felt fishy about my earlier response
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:51 a.m.
I thought I wrote to include pretty much everything
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:51 a.m.
"including but not limited to" "all assets"(edited)
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:52 a.m.
Cars would still fall under the scope of the order
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:52 a.m.
Remind me to never respond past 11pm bst
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:53 a.m.
@ian @isaac
KezzeraKezzera
in that case, it won't be in the scope of the order
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 09:53 a.m.
Therefore this should be taken back
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 12:08 p.m.
Ok will the Court like an amended written response to the interrogatories @Kezzera
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 12:09 p.m.
Even though in-game cars cannot be sold
ian
ian 2025-06-06 03:18 p.m.
@Kezzera please direct filturaes to answer the questions as they were presented
ian
ian 2025-06-06 03:18 p.m.
Not how he wants to
ian
ian 2025-06-06 03:18 p.m.
This time
isaacisaac
Even though in-game cars cannot be sold
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 04:37 p.m.
It can
isaacisaac
Ok will the Court like an amended written response to the interrogatories @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 04:39 p.m.
@ian cc

Answer the questions completely, give regard to the Order as written. Note thr following:

- "all assets" ; "including but not limited to"

Amended response please
(edited)
KezzeraKezzera
It can
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 04:47 p.m.
No the feature is bugged your honor
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 04:47 p.m.
But we will comply
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 04:57 p.m.
I'll check in an hour
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 04:57 p.m.
It worked fine for me last time
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 06:49 p.m.
@Kezzera Can we get a 24 hr extension
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 06:50 p.m.
My clients are offline and I am unsure whether they will be online anytime soon
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 06:56 p.m.
sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-06 06:56 p.m.
(I AM NOT CHANGING MY MIND ON THE EXTENSION)
isaac
isaac 2025-06-06 06:57 p.m.
Thank you
KezzeraKezzera
(I AM NOT CHANGING MY MIND ON THE EXTENSION)
ian
ian 2025-06-07 11:50 a.m.
you know me so well
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 03:55 p.m.
AMENDED RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES
CC: @ian @Kezzera
isaacisaac
AMENDED RESPONSE TO INTERROGATORIES CC: @ian @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-07 04:25 p.m.
Which are combat's and which are ultra's
ian
ian 2025-06-07 04:25 p.m.
It says theyre both combat's
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 04:26 p.m.
Oops
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 04:26 p.m.
May the court recongize that 2 is meant for the responses of UltraInstinctShxggy
ian
ian 2025-06-07 04:27 p.m.
For the record I am displeased at the way the document is formulated—devoid of the grammar and appropriateness such a situation requires
isaacisaac
May the court recongize that 2 is meant for the responses of UltraInstinctShxggy
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-07 04:41 p.m.
noted
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 04:41 p.m.
May the court also recognize that the selling cars feature is disabled in Clark County
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 04:42 p.m.
Just to clear it up
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 04:47 p.m.
Also may the Court please hold off on ruling on the motion to vacate as we are in negotiation talks
cc: @Kezzera
ian
ian 2025-06-07 04:47 p.m.
affirm
isaacisaac
Also may the Court please hold off on ruling on the motion to vacate as we are in negotiation talks cc: @Kezzera
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-07 05:30 p.m.
sure
isaacisaac
May the court also recognize that the selling cars feature is disabled in Clark County
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-07 05:30 p.m.
i'll check that now
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-07 05:32 p.m.
it seems so
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-07 05:32 p.m.
@isaac @ian yeah its disabled
isaac
isaac 2025-06-07 05:35 p.m.
Yes
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
@Kezzera I've come to an agreement with the defense
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
we will draft a consent judgment soon for you to sign regarding payment
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
meanwhile could you please put fox in contempt if you havent already
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
sure
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
just for the two defendants represented then
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
yeah fox is uh
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:26 p.m.
not reachable
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
yea
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
okay
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
apparently he does play clark though
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
so contempt will be good
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
how can you be sure?
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
until he chooses to participate
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
is there any way to back that up?
KezzeraKezzera
how can you be sure?
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
he told my client he does
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
it's irrelevant though
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
even if he didnt play he should be in civil contempt by now
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
and if he doesn't play anymore so be it—if he ever wants to come back he'll have to pay us, rightfully
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:27 p.m.
well it would determine whether i can functionally put them in contempt
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:28 p.m.
so it's absolutely relevant
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:28 p.m.
i want something to back this up
KezzeraKezzera
well it would determine whether i can functionally put them in contempt
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:28 p.m.
how so
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:28 p.m.
i dont think i can give it while someone's not in-game
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:28 p.m.
or it fucks up their data
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:29 p.m.
no that's incorrect
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:29 p.m.
okay...?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:30 p.m.
nothing else then?
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:30 p.m.
hold up
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:30 p.m.
when did fox tell your client this anyway?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:30 p.m.
months ago?
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:30 p.m.
No
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:31 p.m.
It was today
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:31 p.m.
oh that's interesting
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:31 p.m.
Also, see Duncan_RBLX v. Wohoo123, No. CV-173-25 (Mayfl. Dt. Ct. 2025) (ordering a defendant be put in indefinite civil contempt for failing to abide by a court order even when not playing the game anymore)
ian
ian 2025-06-08 04:31 p.m.
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Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:32 p.m.
okay, good to know
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-08 04:32 p.m.
we'll sort that then
ian
ian 2025-06-08 09:00 p.m.
@Kezzera @isaac
ian
ian 2025-06-08 09:01 p.m.
Do you approve
isaac
isaac 2025-06-08 09:06 p.m.
Hiy es
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-09 10:59 p.m.
im just uh
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-09 10:59 p.m.
a bit confused by the wording here
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-09 11:00 p.m.
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 02:30 a.m.
i've made some technical amendments, look in the channel i tagged you for a copy
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 02:31 a.m.
(signatures are not transferred over obviously)
KezzeraKezzera
i've made some technical amendments, look in the channel i tagged you for a copy
ian
ian 2025-06-10 06:09 a.m.
Looks good to me
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 10:01 a.m.
@isaac you will need to also consent to the changes
isaac
isaac 2025-06-10 12:51 p.m.
Yes
KezzeraKezzera
@isaac you will need to also consent to the changes
ian
ian 2025-06-10 05:30 p.m.
he doesn't
ian
ian 2025-06-10 05:30 p.m.
the consent judgment he already signed says you can make changes, the court, as you want(edited)
ian
ian 2025-06-10 05:30 p.m.
to correct typos or whatever
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 07:14 p.m.
...
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 07:14 p.m.
this replaces wholly what you guys wrote up
KezzeraKezzera
this replaces wholly what you guys wrote up
ian
ian 2025-06-10 08:18 p.m.
yes
ian
ian 2025-06-10 08:18 p.m.
typographically
ian
ian 2025-06-10 08:18 p.m.
not in purpose though
ian
ian 2025-06-10 08:18 p.m.
just clarifies it a little bit
ian
ian 2025-06-10 08:18 p.m.
his consent is not needed but he gave it anyway so you can sign
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-10 08:58 p.m.
it's not even just typos it's the logic and wording but ok
ian
ian 2025-06-12 05:41 p.m.
@Kezzera you can sign the order
ian
ian 2025-06-12 05:41 p.m.
please
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-14 03:38 a.m.
@ian @isaac the order is signed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-14 03:38 a.m.
and an additional order is made addressing what must be provided to the court when payment is being sorted
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-14 03:39 a.m.
and who can receive it from the plaintiff's side on behalf of the plaintiff if needed
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-06-23 10:09 p.m.
Order entered - civil contempt foxfragment
KezzeraKezzera
Order entered - civil contempt foxfragment
ian
ian 2025-06-23 10:25 p.m.
thank you your honor
krm
krm 2025-07-21 11:09 a.m.
@Kezzera can this be archived?
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-07-21 11:37 a.m.
@krm Yes
Kezzera
Kezzera 2025-07-21 11:37 a.m.
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